“…Wait until you hear what happens at the end of the episode. It’s one of those moments that reminds you how powerful the mind truly is.”
Have you ever felt like you’ve done everything to heal—yet something still seems to be holding you back?
Maybe you’ve practiced forgiveness, shifted your mindset, or worked on letting go… but the pain or illness remains.
Have you ever asked yourself:
If these questions resonate with you, this episode is for you. 💛
In this deeply moving session, Brandy works with Dagmar, a kind and courageous woman navigating pain, illness, and cancer. What unfolds is a powerful reminder that real transformation happens when we go beyond thinking about change and start feeling and being that change.
As you listen, you’ll witness how unresolved emotions—especially old hurt or disappointment—can hold energy in the body, and how true healing begins when we discover peace, safety, and trust within ourselves. Near the end of the session, just when it seems complete, something extraordinary happens: Dagmar experiences a real-time physical shift in her pain using only the power of her mind.
✨ In this episode, you’ll discover:
This episode is heartfelt, eye-opening, and beautifully human.
If you’ve ever felt stuck in your healing journey or wondered what it truly takes to move forward, this conversation will remind you just how powerful you are.
💛 Remember: True healing begins at the deepest levels of awareness—where peace, trust, and love become your foundation.
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[00:00:00] Welcome to Heal Yourself, Change Your Life. My name is Brandy Gillmore, and after recovering from my own life-changing injury, it’s become my mission to share with others the same discoveries I made that changed my health and my entire life. Our minds are truly incredible. The placebo is proof of this.
Each week I will take this simple awareness to a whole new level. I’ll even coach live callers to free themselves of physical pain using only their mind, and then I’ll provide you with a combination of practical and spiritual insights that you can use to master your mind, your emotions, and your energy to help you heal your health, yourself, and your life.
Let’s begin.
[00:01:00] Hello and happy, beautiful day to you. Welcome back! On today’s episode, I work with a beautiful volunteer, and the insights that come from the episode are really profound in so many ways. You know, you’ll see common places where people get stuck. You’ll also see what I mean when I say that we really need to make a change—
—at a deeper level. Meaning that, you know, if you think about past podcast episodes, if you’ve been listening and you hear me work with somebody to shift their mindset and release their pain or create all kinds of changes, it seems really easy. And it can be when we learn how to work with the mind.
But what you’ll observe from this is you’ll observe the difference between thinking about a change, feeling a change, creating a change, and just that deeper, deeper awareness of what needs to shift—and several other key insights. And so for that reason, I just love today’s episode.
And of course, I love our volunteer. You’re absolutely going to love her. She’s got a beautiful smile and a beautiful heart and beautiful energy—despite the fact that she’s facing some pretty serious health challenges. And what I love, though, is the ending of the session.
Because what you’ll notice—by the way, just spoiler alert a little bit—is we’re about to wrap up. We’re at the point where I’m saying goodbye, but then I’m like, “Wait a second. There’s something… let me show you something else.”
And what’s fun? I show her how to create that shift so she sees like a radical shift in her pain levels, which is powerful for her to see and witness where she is.
So, in other words, as you’re going through this session, there’s a lot of key insights and powerful takeaways. But once it gets to the end, it just takes a really powerful, powerful pivot where you can see how things really come together and can really start healing the body and changing your life in a major way.
And so, that’s what I love about this episode. And of course, as we go through it, it’ll make even more sense.
So that said, let’s go ahead and step in with our beautiful volunteer. Her name is Dagmar, and you’re absolutely going to love her. Here we go.
Dagmar: Good morning. Good morning. It’s wonderful to connect with you. Wonderful to meet you. Wow. Thank you.
Brandy: Thank you for your time. Absolutely. You’re beautiful. What can I help you with today, beautiful?
Dagmar: Oh, I’m not feeling too great. Because I have stage four colon cancer. I was diagnosed in 2022. In 2023, they told me I wasn’t going to live that long anymore. I did a surgery in 2024, which gave me a lot of hope that they actually could cure me. And then I was doing a lot of self-healing and everything, and I was really feeling that I was on the right track.
And then I think in May or something they said the cancer was back. So that already blew my mind away. It was very sad, of course. It felt like everything was for nothing, and I lost all hope.
And then in August—last August—when we were on holiday, my bowel closed up because the tumor was pressing on my bowel. So I couldn’t eat anymore. I was very nauseous and… I just, I was spiraling down and down and down and down.
Brandy: Okay.
Dagmar: I haven’t… I’ve been trying to pick it up, but ever since the bad news, I’m just spiraling down basically. And not… not trying—I can’t get any better.
Brandy: Okay. So I’m gonna tell you—we’re gonna spiral the other way. Not down—up. Okay?
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: Right. That’s the plan. Okay?
Dagmar: Yeah. Yeah.
Brandy: All right. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Okay? And—bingo—we’re gonna dive in. Okay?
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: So, bingo. We’re gonna dive in. Okay. So, uh, bingo and—
Bingo. There’s somebody in your life. And, if I ask you—I’m trying to figure out who this person is—how many siblings do you have?
Dagmar: Two.
Brandy: And can you give me their initials, please?
Dagmar: J and D.
Brandy: Okay, not that—bingo, that. Okay. And are you married?
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: And can you give me his initial, please?
Dagmar: F.
Brandy: Okay. And how long have you guys been married for?
Dagmar: Uh, 11 years.
Brandy: Okay. And… there’s somebody else that I’m looking for. Do you have children?
Dagmar: Yeah, three children.
Brandy: Okay, and can you give me their initials please?
Dagmar: V, F, and L.
Brandy: Okay. So give me one second… And they’re all from your husband?
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: Okay. And… give me one second—bingo. Uh, could you give me your dad’s initial please?
Dagmar: H.
Brandy: Bingo. Okay. All right. And can you also give me your mom’s initial, please?
Dagmar: C.
Brandy: Okay. And your dad’s initial again?
Dagmar: H.
Brandy: Bingo. Okay. All right. And if I ask you how your connection is with your dad, what would you say?
Dagmar: Uh, there isn’t a connection.
Brandy: Mm-hmm.
Dagmar: We broke our connection a long time ago due to all things in my childhood. We were in touch when I was sick, but the relationship cost me a lot of energy—it was always from my side. And when I was sick, I think it just was too heavy for him, I guess. That I was sick—that he couldn’t manage. So he said a completely different reason from childhood, but he said, “I’d rather not be in touch.”
And I said, “Okay. Know that I’m always open to be in touch with you. Know that I’m not angry with you anymore, about the past.” And that was it, basically.
Brandy: Okay. So you can see that there’s been a lot of hurt around this relationship, right?
Dagmar: Yeah, yeah.
Brandy: Okay. So notice—we pretty much went through everybody, and then it’s like, oh, it’s this man, okay. So there’s some work here to be done. Can you see that?
Dagmar: Okay.
Brandy: So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And I want you to notice the part of you that feels very angry, hurt, and upset regarding him. Can you see that?
Dagmar: Mm-hmm.
Brandy: Zero to 10, how much?
Dagmar: Seven.
Brandy: Okay, we’ll go with your seven. I probably would’ve said a little bit higher, but we’ll go.
So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And I want you to notice the part of you that feels hurt and rejected and upset—all of these things by him.
Now, if I ask you—what age were you when he stepped out of your life in childhood?
Dagmar: He stepped in and out of my life. Sometimes I lived with my mom, sometimes with my dad. Two years he’d be absent, then very in my life again, then out again. So basically in and out my whole life.
Brandy: Okay. And if I ask you, why do you say he’s out of your life now?
Dagmar: I think because he couldn’t manage the illness. That’s the reason behind it.
Brandy: Okay. And why was he out before?
Dagmar: He had a relationship with my best friend. They kept it secret for quite a long time. She was my best friend and doing everything behind my back. And he was my father. So that was a big reason we got into a fight—I said I didn’t want to see him for a while. Then later he said I broke the connection, and that’s why he doesn’t want to see me anymore. But that doesn’t feel like the real reason.
He’s never really been a dad to me anyway. Not a traditional dad.
Brandy: Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe…
Brandy: And now remember, why are we talking about this topic?
Dagmar: For my health.
Brandy: Right—your health. So I want you to notice: zero to 10, how much do you want him to change?
Dagmar: I would always want to have that. It’s never gonna happen.
Brandy: Okay. So the thing is, we have these expectations on people—of what we want them to be. Then we get disappointed when they don’t become that. But they didn’t agree to be that person. Right?
So imagine your mom wanted you to play basketball and you’re like, “I don’t play basketball.” And she’s really disappointed. That’s not fair to you, right?
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: Okay. So I understand you, I hear you. But remember—our priority is your health. So you can wait for him to change, or you can genuinely change and really work through this yourself to let this go and let him be him. Without hurt. Make sense?
Dagmar: Yeah. I thought I did most of the work already, but apparently I didn’t.
Brandy: That is so common. People feel like they’ve done the work… yet they haven’t. It’s like this: imagine there’s old food in your fridge. You open it, see it, say “I forgive you,” then close the door. Is the food gone?
Dagmar: No.
Brandy: Right. Even if you forgave it, it’s still there. That’s what’s happening here—it’s still in your subconscious mind, even if you’ve piled forgiveness on top.
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: So, if I ask you, can you still find the old hurt, the anger, the upset?
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: So it’s still there. You haven’t changed it. When I look at my own past injuries, I don’t even feel those emotions anymore—they don’t make sense. That’s where you want to get to.
Let’s talk about the relationship with your best friend—how old was she?
Dagmar: Twenty-something.
Brandy: So she was of legal age?
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: So if you said, “They should have told me. I understand why they didn’t—they were afraid to upset me. I get it.”
They were both consenting adults. Did they wrong you?
Dagmar: Not really…
Brandy: Were they attacking you? Harming you?
Dagmar: No…
Brandy: So they didn’t do it to hurt you. And they didn’t do it on purpose, either. It just happened. And yet you’ve been holding onto this. So now I’m gonna ask you to breathe…
Let’s go a step further. When was the last time you spoke to that best friend?
Dagmar: I never talked to her again. I saw her once and she just turned away. I think she was too ashamed.
Brandy: Okay. But remember—why are we talking about this?
Dagmar: Because it’s holding me back in my healing.
Brandy: Exactly. Your bowels are having issues. They’re closing up. What do bowels do?
Dagmar: Let go of old sh—
Brandy: Let go of old sh*t. And you’re literally having trouble letting go. You can see that, right?
Dagmar: Yeah.
Brandy: Is it worth it? Holding onto all that pain, anger, and betrayal?
Dagmar: No.
Brandy: So now that you’re seeing this reflection—your bowels literally mirroring your emotional energy—are you willing to shift this?
Dagmar: Yes.
Brandy: Then let’s go deeper.
Dagmar: Is this the only thing hurting me regarding my dad? I feel like there’s more…
Brandy: There is. I also see a layer of guilt—on your side.
Dagmar: Guilt?
Brandy: Yeah. The feeling that you cut him off, that you made that decision. Can you feel even a little of that guilt?
Dagmar: Maybe a four.
Brandy: Exactly. That guilt can drive the victim narrative even more. You say, “I had to cut him off because of what he did.” And now, when he says he doesn’t want to reconnect, you add more meaning—“Oh, it’s because I’m sick.” And then what? More resentment. More victim energy.
And that is not helping your health.
Dagmar: Yeah, I see it now.
Brandy: Good. You see the downward spiral. Now what if we spiral up instead?
Now, I think that’s a great place to pause for today so you can really digest all this. Reflect. Let it land. And then come back empowered and ready to truly let go—because that’s when the real shift happens.
Sound good?
Dagmar: Yes.
Brandy: Beautiful. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And as you do, I want you to really reflect on what we’ve talked about—because the way you are holding on to this is not serving you. It’s literally showing up in your body.
Dagmar: Yeah…
Brandy: Good. Now, before we wrap up, I want to show you something else. You’ve probably heard me mention in past episodes that we have to create a shift in the emotions—because change doesn’t just happen by talking about it. You have to embody it. So let’s do that together right now, okay?
Dagmar: Okay.
Brandy: Perfect. I want you to imagine yourself feeling completely free—free of the old story, free of the hurt, free of the anger. See yourself standing tall, light, and open. See your body at ease. See your bowels relaxed, functioning easily, because you’ve let all of this go. How does that feel?
Dagmar: It feels good. Lighter.
Brandy: Beautiful. That’s the energy of freedom. Now, breathe into that. Really feel it. Allow that energy to expand through your body. The way your mind feels right now—calm, open, light—that’s how healing begins. You’re teaching your body a new pattern. This is what I mean when I say we have to make a change at a deeper level.
Dagmar: Yeah… I can feel it shifting a little already.
Brandy: Exactly. That’s your energy changing. That’s your body responding. The emotions we hold in the subconscious don’t just live in our thoughts—they live in our cells. So as you change the way you feel, your body starts to change with you. That’s why this work is so powerful. It’s mind-body healing at its core.
Brandy: And one more thing before we finish. You mentioned guilt. I want you to let go of that completely. You did the best you could with what you knew then. You were hurt. You were reacting. You were trying to protect yourself. That’s okay. But now you know better. Now you can choose differently.
Dagmar: Yeah. That makes sense.
Brandy: Beautiful. So breathe that in. Feel yourself forgiving you—not forgiving him, not forgiving her—but forgiving you for carrying all of that pain. Letting it dissolve. Because when you forgive yourself, that’s when your body finally says, “Okay, it’s safe to heal.”
Dagmar: I can feel that. Like a release.
Brandy: Exactly. That’s what this work is about. It’s not about pretending something never happened—it’s about transforming the emotional energy so you can live freely, fully, and healthily. That’s the kind of inner transformation that brings real healing.
Brandy: Remember, it’s not about waiting for other people to change. It’s about you becoming so emotionally strong and free that you don’t need them to. That’s when your energy shifts, and your health follows. This is your body’s way of asking you to release what no longer serves you.
Dagmar: That’s powerful.
Brandy: It is. And you’re doing beautifully. So from here, I want you to keep working with this awareness. Each time you feel yourself thinking about your father or your past, instead of going into sadness or resentment, I want you to feel compassion and peace. Feel love. Let that be your new pattern. That’s how your body learns to heal and thrive again.
Dagmar: Okay. I can do that.
Brandy: I know you can. You’ve got this. You’re stronger than you realize. And I want you to know—I can already feel your energy starting to shift. Keep feeding it with love, compassion, and joy. That’s what fuels healing.
Dagmar: Thank you so much, Brandy.
Brandy: You’re so welcome, beautiful. I can’t wait to hear the updates as you continue to shift and heal. Keep spiraling upward. You’ve got this.
Dagmar: I will. Thank you.
Brandy: So let’s take a moment to reflect on this powerful session. What we just witnessed is a beautiful example of how emotional energy manifests in the body. Dagmar’s bowel obstruction wasn’t just a physical condition—it was a reflection of the emotional energy of holding on, of not being able to let go.
When she began to recognize that and started to shift it, she could feel her pain and energy changing. That’s how the body communicates—it mirrors the emotions we’re carrying. The mind and body are not separate; they’re one system of energy and information constantly responding to our feelings, beliefs, and focus.
So I want to invite you—if there’s something you’ve been holding onto, whether it’s anger, guilt, hurt, or disappointment—to begin to release it. Let your body know it’s safe to let go. Because when you do, you’ll find your health, your energy, and your life begin to expand in the most beautiful ways.
As always, remember: Your mind is powerful. Your energy is powerful. And you have the ability to heal yourself and transform your life.
IMPORTANT NOTE: We understand that some may believe mind-body healing is impossible. Therefore, if you would like to see images of individuals using their minds to relieve pain, you can check out this medical journal. It includes images from some of Brandy's case studies. If you want to learn how to use your mind to heal yourself, you can check out the training on Brandy's website. Each week, Brandy publishes a volunteer episode where she coaches a volunteer to heal themselves using their own mind. In addition, Brandy shares a quick IQ episode (Insights and Questions) where she answers listener questions or delves deeper into insights on working with the mind for healing. This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for psychiatric or medical care.
If you struggle with negative thoughts, chronic pain, or chronic health issues, please continue seeing your doctor as recommended. Think of self-healing and mind-body healing as ways to partner with your doctor—keeping them informed and working as a team—so you can feel empowered in your health journey and fully embrace what’s possible through the power of your mind, emotions, and energy. Genuine change and consistent follow-through are key. Please enjoy this self-healing podcast.
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