In this powerful episode, Brandy reveals one of the most profound discoveries in mind-body healing: there’s actually a formula for healing. You’ll hear a live coaching session with a beautiful volunteer where hidden emotional patterns are uncovered and shifted in real time—leading to relief, new awareness, and genuine empowerment.
One of the most eye-opening insights is seeing how different combinations of emotions affect the body in different ways—and how key it is to shift the mindset at a deeper, subconscious level for lasting results in both emotional healing and physical health.
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This session is a powerful reminder of the mind-body connection and how, when we truly learn to work with our minds, we can unlock natural healing and transformation. If you’ve ever struggled with chronic health challenges, emotional blocks, or guilt that weighs you down, this episode will inspire you to see what’s possible.
Tune in and discover how much power you truly have when you learn to decode what your body is trying to tell you.
Disclaimer:
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[00:00:00] Welcome to Heal Yourself, Change Your Life. My name is Brandy Gillmore, and after recovering from my own life-changing injury, it’s become my mission to share with others the same discoveries I made that changed my health and my entire life. Our minds are truly incredible. The placebo is proof of this.
Each week I will take this simple awareness to a whole new level. I will even coach live callers to free themselves of physical pain using only their mind, and then I’ll provide you with a combination of practical and spiritual insights that you can use to master your mind, your emotions, and your energy to help you heal your health, yourself, and your life.
Let’s begin. [00:01:00]
Hello and happy beautiful day to you. Welcome back. On today’s episode, we have a beautiful volunteer, and the insights that come from today’s episode are just really profound. And so I love that. And part of the reason that I say they’re so profound is what you’ll notice as we start going through this session, as I’m working with our beautiful volunteer, you’ll notice a few things.
You know, first and foremost, that she has multiple different illnesses, and you can see how different emotions are connected to different illnesses, and you can see the changes or hear the changes as we’re going through it. So that is really powerful.
Now, another thing that is really powerful is this — when we stop and think about it for a moment, we know that stress affects the physical body. We’ve all heard that before. We know that it’s been proven. You know, there’s research that shows that stress can impact the physical body. But one of the things that was really profound during my injury when I was trying to figure out how to heal myself and how it works is I started looking at everything objectively, and you hear me say that all the time.
You know, when I started really looking at both sides of the equation and I said, well, wait a second here. If it was just stress that affected the physical body, then anybody who’s really stressed or has PTSD trauma would be really sick. And of course, I could see that there were officers or people in the military who had severe trauma who weren’t necessarily physically sick. So clearly I could see that both were true — that stress could affect the physical body, but it also in some cases couldn’t.
And what was powerful is I began to realize that it was a specific combination of emotions that was really key in the whole thing. And so, [00:03:00] as I really started understanding that, it was pivotal — it helped me to understand what I needed to do to change.
Now, that’s one of the things that I love about today’s episode — you’ll notice that there’s a combination and it’s specific, and some different emotions affect different parts of the body, but there are some that are the same. You can see the combination, but the difference is just really profound.
And so you’ll get what I mean as I dive in. But that was something that really was powerful for me — understanding how that was even possible. And again, if you’ve heard my journey before, one of the things that was also really powerful was multiple personality disorder — just the awareness that people with different personalities could have different illnesses in different personalities, and further it was mind-blowing. It was consistent, meaning that personality number one could always have the same illness and it was medically documented, and then personality number four could have the same illness and personality number three could have no illness whatsoever.
And so it was consistent — it stayed with the same mindset. And that really blew my mind, and of course, excited me and made me say, okay, let me figure out how this works. And so that’s what I love about today’s episode.
Our volunteer, her name is Fer — short for Fernanda. She’s just so sweet and loving and wonderful and self-aware and wise — just a beautiful, beautiful being. And so that said, that’s where we’re going as we step in with our beautiful volunteer, Fer. Here we go.
[00:05:00] Hello. Hi, Brandy. Nice to meet you. Likewise, likewise. Nice to meet you. How’s your day going? It’s okay. How’s yours going? Great, thank you. It’s going really great.
So what can I help you with today, beautiful?
Yeah, first of all, thank you so much for the opportunity. I am really a big, big fan of your work and your podcast and I’m reading your book, so thank you so much.
And yeah, so, well, not trying to get too much into the story ’cause it’s a big story, but I was diagnosed with Crohn’s disease and later on I figured out it was connected to mold exposure. Then I had more issues come up, like immune dysregulation, nervous system dysregulation, a lot of issues with viruses. Every time I get a virus, it causes a storm in my body, and especially my gut. Everything ends up being in my gut — like I have a nervous stomach, colon inflammation, and you know, diarrhea, blood in my stool, stuff like that. I also have a lot of anxiety, sleep issues, and also tightness on my left side. Like, it’s connected to the inflammation in my gut, but also if the muscles get inflamed, then it triggers inflammation in my gut. So it’s like everything’s connected.
I also have MCAS (chemical sensitivity) and electrical sensitivity, which is very weird, but yeah.
So first and foremost, I’m gonna start by saying I don’t recommend doing any of that, okay? So I’m gonna ask you to breathe — and of course, I definitely have compassion. I know what it feels like and it definitely does not feel fun.
So let’s go ahead and look at that for a moment. If I ask you how much tightness you’re feeling on your left side right now, what’s your level zero to ten?
Um, it’s right now it’s like a two or three, ’cause I took CBD, so it got better. But yeah.
Okay, so give me one second. Mostly it’s the nervous stomach that I have. Mm-hmm. Okay, give me one second.
Trying to figure out who that… give me one second.
[00:08:00] Okay. So do you have a stepfather? No. Okay. What is your father’s initial? S. Okay. So there’s like a… okay. Are you married? Yes. Can you give me his first initial please? R. Bingo. Okay. Bingo. So let’s go there.
If I ask you, first and foremost, if I ask you how much hurt you felt in your relationship, what would you say? Um, zero. So zero hurt at all, correct? Well, yeah. I mean, normal things, but I wouldn’t say hurt ’cause, you know, he’s wonderful. So, yeah, zero. Maybe like, I feel like I want to give more to him. Bingo. Okay.
And if I ask you… I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Give me one second. There’s another person that I’m looking for… yes. Can you give me your mom’s first initial please? M. Bingo. Okay.
And if I ask you, zero to ten, how much you can find a feeling of being afraid of getting in trouble as a child, zero to ten, what would you say your level was? 10. Okay. And bingo. I’m gonna ask you to breathe. If I ask you, zero to ten, how much you have a feeling of being afraid of getting in trouble from your husband — even if it doesn’t make logical sense — what would you say? 10. Yeah. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
And your husband’s really, really mean, right? Horrible, right? No. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So he’s just like this mean guy who’s really… you have to be afraid you’re going to upset him. No, no, no. I’m afraid of getting him upset, but he’s great. Yeah. So… I should be afraid of your husband, right? No. I mean, we should all be afraid of your hu— No. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So then how much fear do you think that you need to hold onto from him? I don’t, I don’t need to. Bingo.
Now, if I ask you, by the way, how much there’s a part of you who feels like if you upset him, you’re afraid he’s going to leave — zero to ten, what would you say? No, I don’t think so. Um, zero maybe. Yeah. Okay, maybe one, but no, zero. He’s okay. I think it comes more… I see that pattern, but it comes more from childhood, from other things — I see that pattern from my dad, everyone in my childhood, even past relationships too. Bingo. That’s exactly where I was gonna go. So you see that also in your past relationships, right? Mm-hmm. And it also feels like there is a friend — could be a friend, could be sister — but there’s a female also that you’re worried about upsetting. Do you know who that is? Um, no. Give me one second.
[00:14:00] Alright, so let’s go ahead and pause it just for a quick moment. You know, first and foremost, I just love her. I love her self-awareness, her self-honesty — just brilliant and beautiful. And also, I want to just take a moment to speak to the awareness that all of the time people can feel a certain way, even if it is opposite of what’s really happening.
As she mentioned, her husband’s energy is just really, really, really sweet. Yet there’s a part of her who has this fear going on, and that, of course, is from her past. And you see that all the time. In fact, you can see people who are wonderful — people who are critical of themselves, or good people who feel like a bad person. Emotions can be opposite of reality.
And that, of course, is part of the challenge sometimes — one of the complexities with emotions is they’re not always logical, and they don’t always match what’s going on. And so I just love her awareness and her self-honesty around that. Just brilliant and beautiful.
And what you’ll also notice is that there are other pieces to the puzzle that are also contributing to this. And so that’s where we’re going as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer Fer. Here we go.
[00:15:00] I mean, I see the pattern all the time. Mm-hmm. But I don’t see a particular female. But I was always like… you know, I never wanna upset anyone. Bingo. But at the same time, I always did. So, yeah. Okay. And why did you always upset everybody?
I think I’m trying to be perfect so things don’t always go perfectly with people. And maybe I tend to overgive so they are happy with me and they want me. Always trying to do things for others. But at the same time, I feel like… maybe more than them for that. Okay. So, yeah, I’m not sure. But I’ve been trying to do a lot of work, so I feel like there are so many patterns that I’ve seen that it must be something I need to start first and then peel back the layers. Right.
Okay. So this is the thing — if I ask you to notice the part of you that feels like you need to do for others because you’re afraid that they might reject you and be mad at you, what would you say? Yeah, um, eight. Okay, bingo. So if I ask you — even though it doesn’t make logical sense — if I ask you how much you even feel that toward your husband, where you feel like you need to do for him so that he doesn’t leave… not to say he’s going to, but you see that feeling, right? Yes. Yes. I see if he’s upset — even if he’s not upset with me — I feel like the need to change that. So, I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:17:00] Let’s pause it just for a quick moment. I wanted to speak to the awareness that emotions in a relationship can sometimes, of course, be completely counterintuitive or from past relationships — and then people end up bringing that into their current relationship, which can create all kinds of problems or stress in the current relationship.
The reason I mention this is because if you stop and think about it, if you’re in a relationship and your partner or loved one is responding to things that happened in the past, what happens? A lot of times, people will take it personally. They might take offense to it — and that, of course, doesn’t help. It just makes matters worse.
So just food for thought: if you’re in a relationship, or wanting to be, think about how you’re showing up to that relationship and what you’re bringing into it. On the flip side, if you are in a relationship with someone who has a lot of emotions from their past, maybe this insight can help you not take everything personally.
Now, of course, when I say don’t take everything personally, it doesn’t mean be dismissive — because that could be hurtful — but it does mean not taking offense to everything, because that can just continue the spiral and create more problems.
Let’s go ahead and dive back in, because as she starts changing this, you’ll notice there’s a real shift. So that’s where we’re headed as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Fer. Here we go.
[00:19:00] Bingo. And I want you to notice that feeling — feeling like everything has to be perfect. Zero to ten, how much can you find that feeling? 9.5. Okay. I’d say 12, but we’ll go with your 9.5. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
And if it’s not perfect, what’s gonna happen? I don’t know. Okay. What your body says is this: when I ask that question, there’s a feeling of people abandoning you if it’s not perfect — people being mad or rejecting you. Can you find that? Yeah. Mad at me and reject me. Yes. Bingo.
So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. The pattern, if I look at it, when I first see it really sitting in is around age four. Okay? Yeah. Yes. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So if I had this feeling that I have to be perfect or everybody’s gonna be mad at me or abandon me, I couldn’t imagine why I would feel like a nervous stomach at all, could you? Uh, yes. Why do you think that would be?
Okay, I’m gonna ask you to breathe. If I have this feeling that I just need to be perfect and nobody can ever be upset about anything, and I have to do for them and be perfect or they’ll abandon me — and by the way, I never mean to upset people, but I always seem to — I can’t imagine why I would feel nervous. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Okay?
Now, you could go ahead and keep that way of thinking — I don’t wanna mess that up for you if you want— No. I’ve been trying to. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:22:00] And does it feel safe to change? No. No. If it felt safe to change, you would’ve already changed it, right? Yes. Because if I said I have to be perfect or everybody’s gonna be mad at me or abandon me, reject me — then how much does it feel safe to just be like, “I’m gonna change that”? Yeah. Yeah. That’s why it’s hard, right? It literally can feel, you know, like that feeling if you were to try to just fall backwards — even if you know somebody’s going to catch you, it still feels like, wait a second, I can’t do that, right? Yeah. Yes. Reflexes. Okay. So, I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:23:00] Alright, so let’s pause it just for a quick moment. You’ll notice that these emotions can be so ingrained that it can be hard to just change them. We can’t just change them with the conscious mind — we can’t just tell our conscious mind to change it. What it takes to really heal the body is understanding and getting into our nervous system at a deeper level — where we genuinely feel different.
Because when we genuinely feel different, that’s where the real change occurs — at a deep level. So we’re going to unpack this further. I really want to emphasize this because so often, people want to stay in their conscious mind — they say, “Okay, I’m feeling different,” but it’s at a conscious level, not subconscious. And to really make the change — to get the body to heal itself — it has to be deep, real, and genuine. And that’s where we’re going as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Fer. Here we go.
[00:24:00] Now, I would say this — number one, you’ve told yourself a story inside your head. Like you said, there’s a big story. If I told you everybody’s mad at me for wearing green, is that really true? No. But if I tell myself that, then I’m going to be afraid to wear green because I’ve told myself that. Yeah.
So notice the part of you that’s told yourself, “If I’m not perfect, my mom’s mad at me.” Can you see that? Mm-hmm. Is that really true? Like, if your brothers aren’t perfect, she’s mad at them, right? Uh, well, my mom passed, but no, mostly I think it comes from… maybe the female you pointed out was probably my grandma. Bingo. That’s who I was thinking it was, but I didn’t want to open up too many things at once. But yes. Bingo, I would agree. Because she was the one — like, I see that pattern of her best interest, trying to have everyone perfect. And then my mom passed it on to me. And then on the other hand, my dad — I felt rejected from my dad. So I think that combination.
And if I ask you also in past relationships how much you felt rejected? Maybe a six or seven. Bingo. It depends on the relationship, but yeah. Sometimes with friends I did feel rejected — and I have great friends, but there are certain patterns where I felt rejected. Agreed. I love your self-awareness. I love your honesty. Mm-hmm.
[00:27:00] Alright, let’s pause for a quick moment. Again, I just love her — her self-awareness, her heart, her honesty. Brilliant and beautiful. And I want to share a quick insight: notice for a moment — if we expect things to happen again, it can make it hard, even impossible, to let go of them.
Imagine something negative happens to someone and they expect it to happen again — how easy is it to let go of it? But if that same person expects it will never happen again, how much easier is it to let go? So much easier. That’s why in my work, I focus on reverse emotional processing — working with the mind forward, instead of backward into the past. Everyone usually goes to the past, but moving forward first is pivotal.
So, when expectations change, it becomes much easier to shift. That’s part of where we’re going — working with the mind differently to get a different result. Let’s step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Fer. Here we go.
[00:28:00] Bingo. And if I ask you, honestly, zero to ten, how much you expect to be rejected again — what is your level? Don’t think, feel. What’s the level you feel? Uh, two, three. Okay. I would’ve said eight. You can see there’s a part of you that expects it could happen — by a friend, by someone — in some type of relationship. Can you see that? Yes. Yeah. I think I overcompensate by trying to do a lot of things, you know? And if I ask you how that feels — stress. Okay. So if I told you I have a feeling of expecting to be rejected, and I overcompensate by doing a lot of things for others — how does that feel? Yeah, not great. Okay.
So imagine if you didn’t expect to get rejected — that you didn’t expect anybody to be mad at you or reject you. How would you feel then? Good. Calm. Calm. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:30:00] Bingo. Okay, there’s another part of you. Even though there’s a part that felt your mom was really hard on you and whatnot, there’s also a part that’s still upset about her passing. Can you find that feeling? Um, in a way — not her passing, but how things happened. I think I could have been there more for her. I carry that. And what happened to her… Okay, so if I ask you how much you feel like there are tears and hurt coming up right now, what would you say? Yeah, a hundred percent. So notice — there’s emotion, a lot of emotion around this. Go ahead and continue, but I wanted to bring that to your awareness. So go ahead.
She got cancer, very aggressive, and died. But I felt like that cancer was related to the life she had with my dad. I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Zero to ten, your level of guilt about all of that — what’s your level? Like a six. Okay. I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Why? She wanted me to be around more, and I wasn’t. I was busy with work and my marriage, my hobbies. Mostly work. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Okay. Well that’s interesting that you feel that way.
[00:32:00] Now why did I say that’s interesting? Because I don’t want you to get sucked into the emotion. It’s interesting to observe that you feel that way — you have that emotion. How long ago did she pass? Ten years. Mm-hmm. So, you’re just gonna carry the guilt for what — another ten years, your entire lifetime? I’m just asking. No, no, no. It has improved. But yeah, I want to let that go. Okay. There are tears and guilt around it. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
I also want you to notice the part of you that feels like a bad person — you weren’t there. Can you see that? Yeah. So you’ve literally labeled yourself as though you’re a bad person for not being there. You’ve not only taken on guilt, but also made it part of your identity. Can you see that? Mm-hmm. What doing? Thank you for your sense of humor. Beautiful. I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:34:00] Bingo. Now I’m gonna ask you to breathe and notice for a moment — if you didn’t feel like a bad person at all, you felt like a good person — how much more free would you feel to then live your life to its fullest? Yeah, I mean, very much. Very much. Right. I think I have both things — where I feel like I’m a very good person, but then I do things and feel guilty, and I’m a bad person. So… yeah. That whole compensation thing. But either way, there’s a part of you that knows, of course, you’re a good person. And then there’s a part that’s harshly labeled you as bad. Okay. I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:35:00] Yeah, that’s a great idea. I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Thank you for letting me be silly and push a little bit. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. All right. And if I ask you to notice the level of nervousness in your stomach, what’s your level? Like a two. So notice it’s gone down, right? Mm-hmm. Yes. Little bit or a lot? A lot. A lot. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
And if you know that you’re allowed to live life fully — if you know that and that you are a good person and you know that for sure — what does that feel like? Um… What if you knew you didn’t need guilt? What if you knew that you didn’t need any guilt at all? Yeah, that would be awesome. Yeah, that would be awesome. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:36:00] So if you knew that you didn’t need guilt at all — and you knew that you’re a good person — bingo, I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. And I want you to notice the level of nervousness in your stomach. Zero to ten, what’s your level? Like a two. One. When we talk about it, it kind of flares up when we talk about the stomach. Mm-hmm. Okay. But when we redirect the emotions, it fades away. Bingo. Bingo. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
I hear you. And I want you to notice the part of you who feels bad toward your mother for not being there more. You see that, right? Yes. Okay. And she would definitely want you to feel bad for at least a decade, probably two or five, right? I don’t think so. No, I don’t think so. I don’t think so. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:37:00] Yeah. There’s a lot of judgment around certain topics from older past generations that I’ve been trying to change. Unpack that a little bit more — were you…? Yeah. So, on that side of the family, they tend to judge a lot what other people did. Mostly, I’m not living what — in a way, I’m not living what they taught us to be. I’m very different. But I feel good with my thoughts — from everything, from what I’ve done to my life, religion, everything — I feel okay. But there’s still that judgment.
And when you mentioned “she didn’t want me to feel guilty,” it comes to mind that she and my grandma would judge people that didn’t get over a loved one passing. Like, it seemed like they didn’t respect a certain amount of time for grieving. They tended to judge people for moving on quick. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. And so does that mean you want to move on very, very, very slowly? No, no, no. I think I’ve been doing the opposite. So, yeah. Okay. I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:39:00] Give me one second. Bingo. Give me one second. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And if I ask you to notice what it would feel like if you just spent your whole life concerned about what everybody else thinks…
Now, by the way, think about this for a moment — you know how everybody has the same favorite color, right? Um, no. What do you mean? You mean people have different favorite colors? Yeah. Well, you know how everybody’s got the same favorite food, right? No. Okay, so everybody has a different opinion about everything, right? Yeah. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to close your eyes and just go ahead and try to please everybody all at the same time, because everybody’s your favorite thing, right? I can’t. No, no, no. I want you to make that your goal in life. No. No, it’s impossible. Ah, it’s impossible. Okay, because I was gonna say after that, what I want you to do is jump onto a hundred-foot building. Okay? So that’s next up after that. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:41:00] So if you know that it’s impossible to please everybody all of the time — with everything — because everybody’s different, right? So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And when do you get to be okay with you? When do you get to give yourself permission to just be you? When does that happen? Now. Ah, now, I like it. I like it. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Does that feel safe to do? I’m not sure. Logically, it does. It does. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So logically it does, because when you start to realize you can’t please everybody all the time — because everybody’s different, right? So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:42:00] And what happens if you stop trying to please everybody all the time, but you let everybody be responsible for their own emotions? What does that look like? Yeah. Okay. That’s bingo. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:43:00] Bingo. Okay. So where your energy wants to come back to — it’s like you are punishing yourself. Can you see the story in your mind that says, “But I should have just shown up for my mom. I should have just…” Can you see that? Yeah. I think it’s more of a pattern that shows up — what I should have done differently — and not only with my mom, but with all my health journey. It comes back to, “What should I change or do different?” Yes. But, yeah. So what’s in your mind — what I see — is this: there’s like a memory of her wanting you to be there and you not being there. Can you see that? Yeah. Yes. Okay. And if I ask you how you feel about that, what feeling is attached to that? Guilt. Bingo. Little bit or a lot? A lot. A lot. Okay. So that’s the difference right there — it’s that feeling.
[00:44:00] So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And if I ask you, at that point in time, how much you were angry at your mom at that point, what would you say? Yeah, I was not. So, if I ask you… bingo. So if I ask you, why weren’t you there? Because I prioritized my own things instead of hers. Like, I was — it was probably a coping mechanism, but I worked a lot, exercised a lot. I wanted to do everything perfectly — be perfect at work, perfect in my relationship — so it didn’t leave enough time for her. Okay. And so I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:45:00] Alright, so let’s pause for a quick moment. Notice that feeling where she said, “I feel like I just didn’t leave enough time for her.” That feeling has so much guilt, self-criticism, and hurt behind it. And one of the things to remember is that, first and foremost, it takes two. Yes, maybe she didn’t do it right — but also, there are layers to everything. And that’s true in everyone’s life. Everybody makes mistakes. And in our lives, we have to be able to let them go instead of holding them against ourselves.
Even in her case, her mother passed ten years ago, and she’s still holding on to that guilt, not allowing herself to fully enjoy life again. And so, we’re going to unpack this further. But my point is: whatever mistakes we make, we have to be able to let them go. We’re born, we learn, we fall, we stand up again. We make mistakes — and that’s how it works. This is the first time any of us have been this age, lived this moment, learned these lessons. Letting go is key. And that’s where we’re headed as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Fer. Here we go.
[00:47:00] I am wanting to move through this in a way… so when I try to take your energy to — it’s like there’s an energy of you still feeling bad and guilty and punishing yourself at a very high level. And it’s like… give me one second because… could it be — I’m not sure — but could it be that her passing was also very traumatic for me? Because before her passing, I’d never feared getting sick. But after she passed, it definitely did something where I started to feel scared of having cancer like her, or scared of every single medical test. And then I had a traumatic birth — the birth of my child — and that definitely resurfaced those feelings. And then with everything that happened in the last years, it kind of left me with a fear of sickness. Yeah.
Okay. So if I were to word it differently — yes, I see there’s a part of you where the trauma of it, if you will — notice she passed a lot faster than you thought also. Mm-hmm. So you can see that — it happened abruptly, and that abrupt feeling sits inside you. Yeah. So there is that, but there’s more. If I ask your body to align with healing, the guilt of feeling like she asked you to be there and you feel like you weren’t — there’s guilt around that. A lot of it. Okay. Yes. So it’s almost like — if I said, someone says, “So-and-so passed and they were so busy…” I’ve seen people before who felt their favorite thing to do was maybe ride horses, and they were off riding when something happened, and now they feel like they can’t enjoy that anymore because they feel punished by it. Right?
Yeah, it makes sense. So in other words, there’s a part of you who feels like you were off prioritizing your life and your work and you didn’t take the time — there’s a punishment part of you that says, “Okay, well I’m going to stop myself and hold myself back from all of those things because I feel guilty.” So it’s holding yourself back from what you were doing. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So when I try… the thing is, there’s that shock of it and the feeling of, “Well, I wish I would have…” — there’s a wish. Yes. So, if I ask you, okay, close your eyes and notice what it would feel like if you didn’t have any guilt regarding this at all? Free. Free. If I ask you how much more free you would feel to enjoy your life and to live and be happy, what would you say? How much you would feel that? Yeah, a lot more. A lot more, right? And so, I want you to breathe.
[00:51:00] So that is the key that’s needed for healing. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. Yes. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. All right, let’s pause it just for a quick moment. Now notice what I’m asking her for — no guilt at all. Just a small little change, right? Of course not — I’m asking for a big change, a real change. I’m only asking her for that because that’s what’s holding her body back from healing itself and keeping her stuck. And so that’s ultimately what’s coming up for her.
Now, the way to think about it is this: when we have some sort of health issue, it’s literally our body’s way of giving us the most important information we need to know — like a spiritual check engine light. If you’re driving and your check engine light comes on, it’s telling you that something’s off. Similarly, illness or a health issue is our spiritual check engine light — it’s telling us that the way of thinking and feeling is off, and we need to fix it from the inside.
So in this situation, really resolving this completely is key. And yes, it takes real change. But that’s the gift — imagine she lives with this guilt for the rest of her life, versus really looking at it, resolving it, and healing from it. It becomes pivotal — for her life, her health, and her happiness. That’s the message her body is giving her. So as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Fernanda — here we go.
[00:54:00] Bingo. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe and I’m gonna ask you to take in the feeling — the feeling that you’re allowed to live life fully. You’re allowed to go back to the things you enjoy, to living life, to thriving, to succeeding — to embodying joy — and that you’re going to do so in a way that has an amazing balance of loving life and loving relationships. And you trust yourself to love life and love relationships. That you have this trust of yourself — that you can be and do and flourish and build your life and also maintain your relationships in a beautiful way. You trust yourself that you can do both.
Now, if you trust you can do both — if you know and you trust that — how much safer does success and living life fully feel to you? Yeah, much safer. Much, much safer. Bingo. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And if I ask you your level of nervousness in your stomach, zero to ten, what’s your level? Like a 0.5. Bingo. Okay. So that feeling — part of letting the guilt go is also trusting yourself to move forward, knowing you’ll do it in a different way. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:56:00] Bingo. And I want you to notice the nervousness in your stomach. Zero to ten, what’s your level? It’s not in my stomach anymore. I mean, I just feel something like in my… not in my colon but in my rectum, like — it gets inflamed when I’m flaring. But yeah, I don’t feel anything in my stomach anymore. Okay. And so as far as… give me one second.
Bingo. Okay. So there is this feeling inside of you — there’s a feeling of being really, really reactive. So, for example, if I ask you to notice the part of you that can be defensive — see what it’s saying? Yes. Yes. A hundred, a hundred, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, let’s say you assume that I’m gonna be mad at you because you’re wearing a black shirt. And so, in your mind, you’re preparing this defense — inflamed about it, upset about it — even if I haven’t said anything. You can see how your mind tends to do that, right? Yeah. Yeah, I do. Yes. So I want you to notice the part of you that’s very defensive regarding all the judgments that are not even being expressed toward you — but you’re very defensive about them. Can you see that? Yes. Yes. Yes.
[00:58:00] And if I ask you how much you feel like people are actively criticizing you, what would you say? Not actively, but yeah. Yeah, I definitely see that part — not everyone, not actively, but I tend to defend myself from everything. I have a pattern of excusing myself for things I cannot do or don’t do. Okay. Why I’m not using… it’s not the excusing yourself. Okay. The inflamed part — the reactive part. Can you see that part? Yes. The defensive reactive. Yes. Zero to ten, how big is that defensiveness? One thousand. Yeah, it’s big. Yeah, somewhere in there. I literally said that to make you laugh. That’s it. That’s the only reason. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. We want to add some humor around it — some laughter — and also it needs to change. When I say “needs to,” you don’t need to do anything — but as far as your health goes, that’s the key. The defensive, the reactive, the upset, the fear of judgment — and the part of you that’s extremely sensitive, that wants to go off in a hot second. Yes. There’s a feeling of defensiveness, of judgment. You see that part, right? Yes. 200. Yes.
[01:00:00] Okay. So that’s the other part. Notice the nervousness is gone. Then you were talking about the other parts as well — and that’s what that has to do with, that feeling. Now, in relationships, it’s common for two people to feel very different things. One person might feel upset about something and another feels hurt. One person feels insecure and another jealous. Two different people can feel different ways — and that’s very common, right? Yeah. So that means only one person is allowed to have emotion though, right? No. Okay. So in a relationship, sometimes one person can have one emotion, another person another — and they don’t need to attack or defend those emotions, but can simply understand without taking it personally. Does that make sense? Yes. Yes.
[01:01:00] So I want you to notice — if people feel a certain way, how much you feel like that’s being put on you — and that there’s a reactiveness that maybe you don’t need. They can have their emotions without you taking it personally. Does that make sense? Yes. Yes. What would happen if people had their emotions and you didn’t need to take it personally? It would be liberating. Bingo. It would be, wouldn’t it? Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[01:02:00] Notice for a moment — the stomach nervousness is gone. And then you also mentioned there was an issue, the feeling in the rectum. If I ask you if that’s up, down, or the same, what would you say? It’s way down. Yeah. Bingo. Okay. So that’s that piece right there. Does that make sense? Yes. Yes. Yeah. I… okay. So, I feel, yeah — like letting it go. Mm-hmm. Okay. Not holding onto — yes. Bingo. Now, if I ask you to be honest with yourself, really genuinely re-patterning this change, really embracing that change, it’s going to take a real change. You can see that, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. So that’s ultimately what I want you to do.
The good thing is, you can see the mind-body connection. You can see the changes with your stomach. You can see the changes also in your body — the rectum. You can see those changes, and you can feel that mind-body connection. Beautiful. Okay? So making that change is key. Make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, great. Give me one second.
[01:03:00] So what I would do to simplify things — I would start with specifically feeling the first part we talked about: the feeling of being allowed to live life guilt-free, and trusting yourself moving forward to live life guilt-free in a great way. And the reason is because if you don’t feel that, then it’s going to be hard to change anything else. Because, okay — if somebody feels like, “Oh, I don’t deserve to live life,” but then says, “By the way, I’m going to go do this,” it’ll hold them back. Does that make sense? Beautiful. Yes. Yes. Fantastic awareness.
So, if you could start there and really start bringing in the feeling of knowing you deserve to have a great life — and you do deserve to be free — and even trusting yourself moving forward to live in great balance in life where, yes, you’re enjoying life to its fullest, you have your priorities and things, but you’re also prioritizing your relationships and showing up the way you want to. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. I love your self-awareness.
[01:04:00] Alright, so embracing that. I’m not going to push too much — this is the reason why: I can push more and more, but ultimately, you really feeling like you’re allowed to live life to its fullest is key. Because if we push beyond that and you haven’t changed that, it’ll hold you back. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yes.
I have a question — is there something related to EMF and electricity intolerance? I discovered I’m sensitive to dirty electricity and that sets me back when I’m exposed to it. So I don’t know if there’s something related in my energy. Can I show you something? If I ask you how much that makes you feel very limited — like you can’t do anything, and that you need to do less and less — what would you say? Yeah, I mean, it’s there. I still do everything. I still go and expose myself. Yes. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
[01:05:00] Okay. So what I would say is this: imagine somebody who feels like they’re not allowed to have fun in life. What happens if they start having fun? They’re not going to feel good. Okay. So, again, going back to that feeling of punishment and guilt — there’s a big feeling of guilt. A feeling like you went off and lived your life, and then you didn’t show up for your mom, and now you feel bad and guilty. That guilt becomes a limiter of life. So, I would say really getting this in is key.
Okay. Yeah. So, put another way: imagine someone says, “I feel guilty for having fun.” And then they ask, “But Brandy, how can I go have more fun?” The answer is — we need to change that feeling first. The feeling that you’re allowed to have fun, that it’s safe to have fun, and that you have permission to have fun. Because if not, it just backfires. Does that make sense? Yes. Yes. Beautiful. Beautiful. I love your self-awareness.
[01:06:00] So this is the thing — we’ve touched the top-level surface of these things, and as you can see, it makes the change. But you’ve really got to wire it in all the way. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. Fantastic.
It has been such a pleasure connecting with you. Fantastic self-awareness. Fantastic smile. And fantastic self. Thank you so much, Brandy. You’re so, so welcome, beautiful. Thank you. I really appreciate it. And I want to jump on the video course for sure. Yeah, I think following through and getting results all the way — that’s key. So beautiful. Beautiful. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, thank you.
[01:07:00] Alright, so let’s bring this all together. First and foremost, I just love her. I love her self-awareness, her heart, her wisdom — just brilliant and beautiful. And I love that she even mentioned, “Hey, I’m going to get your course.” The reason I love that is because people often want to change surface-level emotions, but they don’t realize it’s deeper. And don’t get me wrong — there are people I work with who change something quickly and stay out of pain. I see that all the time. For example, on my website, I work with a volunteer who had neck pain — under medical equipment — and you can see the change. Her pain stayed gone. That was ten years ago. Incredible job.
[01:08:00] Now, other times — like in this situation — there are deeper things going on that require real change. I love that Fer had the wisdom to recognize that. And by the way, she mentioned she also has my book. My book is brilliant and wonderful — and I say that humbly — it’s brilliant because our bodies are brilliant. The understanding of how they work, the research behind it, understanding the mind-body connection — it’s powerful. You can see how energy, the mind, and emotion connect. It’s brilliant because our bodies are brilliant.
[01:09:00] The video course, too, helps rewire the subconscious mind and create change. It helps you shift your emotions. But above all, what I really love is that she understood she needed to make a real change. She understood she needed to do more — to truly embrace that feeling of change. Let’s be honest — it’s real work, real transformation, real emotional evolution. And I love that.
[01:10:00] Another thing that I really love from this is that you can see how different emotions affect the body differently. You could see how the nervous stomach was different from the pain in the rectum — and how the guilt toward her mom connected with both. There are overlapping emotional “ingredients.” Some emotions overlap; some are unique to each issue.
And that’s what you can see from this session — exactly that. The guilt toward her mom was affecting both, and even the EMF sensitivity connects with that as well. Yet, different emotions affect different parts of the body. Just like if someone’s embarrassed, their face turns red, or if someone’s anxious, their heart races — we can see how specific emotions physically affect us.
That’s what I love about this — you can see how incredible we are, and that we can make these changes. Notice, she was able to change and shift the energy in her stomach, and then also the energy in her rectum. She did that — she created that change with her mind. That’s powerful.
She has a lot of health issues going on, so of course it’s going to take real follow-through — but she’s already showing that change is possible. That’s key.
[01:12:00] One of the things that really hit me during my own injury — something that woke me up — was realizing how illness was projected to continue increasing exponentially for decades. I thought, “Wait a second, illness is just going to keep getting worse?” That realization made me see I needed to look outside the box for answers.
It’s like if someone says, “If you go down this road, things will only get worse,” you’d think, “Maybe I need a new road.” That’s what inspired me to find a new way. The projections also showed that people who already had one chronic illness would likely develop more — multiple illnesses. And that’s what we see here — one person, multiple conditions.
So, the ability to heal ourselves is more important than ever. We can see that the old ways don’t always work — and that healing the mind and emotions can transform not just the body, but life itself.
[01:14:00] The ability to heal yourself, to understand how the mind and emotions work — it’s incredible. And that’s my hope for you. I hope this episode was insightful. I hope you’ll hit the share button and share it with someone you love — or even someone you don’t know — because the more people understand that we can heal ourselves, the more lives will change.
And remember, when our bodies have an illness or challenge, it’s like a spiritual check engine light. It’s not to hurt us — it’s to help us. It’s showing us something we need to change. When we truly do, it doesn’t just heal the body — it transforms our lives in the most beautiful ways. So please do share, and make a point to have the most wonderful, incredible rest of your day. I look forward to seeing you on the next episode. We’ll see you there.
[01:15:00] Thank you for listening to Heal Yourself, Change Your Life. All of the time people reach out and say how much these episodes have given them hope, touched their hearts, or helped them stay positive in hard times. Some say it woke them up to a completely new level of awareness — of how amazing we really are.
If today’s episode touched your heart or expanded your mind in any way, please do me a favor and share it with those you care about — or those who really need it. As more people become empowered, it truly changes our world for the better.
That is the point and the power of these demonstrations — to create a radical shift in consciousness by showing everyone what we are all capable of. Each volunteer will need to follow through to reinforce their programming, to maintain their results. But the point is for you to see that you really can create rapid results in your health and your life if you truly understand how to use your mind. You are incredible.
[01:16:00] I do want to be clear though — most people will not get results this fast on their own. I make it look easy because of the discoveries I’ve made. You want to remember there’s so much more going on in our minds at a deeper level than people realize. That said, if you want to send me any questions or comments, come visit me on my website at BrandyGillmore.com/podcast.
And if you’re currently experiencing physical pain and would like to be a volunteer on the show, you can sign up there as well.
Lastly, please remember: if you do have any health issues, you don’t want to avoid your doctors. Instead, continue seeing them — and make it your goal to blow their minds with what you are capable of with your mind.
Thank you.
IMPORTANT NOTE: We understand that some may believe mind-body healing is impossible. Therefore, if you would like to see images of individuals using their minds to relieve pain, you can check out this medical journal. It includes images from some of Brandy's case studies. If you want to learn how to use your mind to heal yourself, you can check out the training on Brandy's website. Each week, Brandy publishes a volunteer episode where she coaches a volunteer to heal themselves using their own mind. In addition, Brandy shares a quick IQ episode (Insights and Questions) where she answers listener questions or delves deeper into insights on working with the mind for healing. This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for psychiatric or medical care.
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