316: Her Daughter Began Healing…Then Something Beautiful Happened

Welcome to Heal Yourself, Change Your Life. My name is Brandy Gillmore, and after recovering from my own life-changing injury, it’s become my mission to share with others the same discoveries I made that changed my health and my entire life. Our minds are truly incredible. The placebo is proof of this.

Each week I will take this simple awareness to a whole new level. I’ll even coach live callers to free themselves of physical pain using only their mind, and then I’ll provide you with a combination of practical and spiritual insights that you can use to master your mind, your emotions, and your energy to help you heal your health, yourself, and your life.

Let’s begin.

Hello and welcome. It is so wonderful to connect with you. I just love that you are here continuing to expand your mind, your energy, your consciousness, your healing. I just love it and I just love today’s episode for so many reasons.

You know, I think most people who are in self-healing or personal development or transformation, of course, want their families to get into it as well—their loved ones, their spouse, their extended family, everybody—just to be healing and happy and live a fantastic life. And what I love is that today’s volunteer is the mother of one of those people.

In short, there is a particular person who is going through my video course and working on healing herself, and she’s doing a phenomenal job, which is exciting and wonderful and I’m just cheering her on. She’s doing amazing. And what I love is that her mother is here because she’s trying to get her mother into self-healing.

And so what I just love is watching this mother and daughter bond in the sweetest way, in a healthy way. That’s what I love. You know, to give you a little bit more backstory, because you’ll hear that as we step into this, is that her daughter was diagnosed with cancer and things were really not looking good.

Spoiler alert: they’re actually doing way better, hugely better—and I’ll share with you more about that coming up a bit. But point being is that what I love is that as her daughter is going through healing and working on healing herself, our beautiful volunteer today decided to open her mind to look at mind-body healing, to expand her mind.

And so I just have to say I have so much respect for this woman. I love her. Her name’s Heather, and she is just such a caring, wonderful, fantastic mother and being and beautiful woman. And I love that she is opening her mind and expanding her mind to healing and working on her own pain issues and just willing to see things in a different way.

And so on that note, that’s where we’re going today. And as we dive in, I just want to say that again, like I just have so much respect for the way she’s showing up, saying, “You know what? I’m open to learning. I’m willing to step outside of the box and see things in a different way.”

And so on that note, let’s go ahead and dive in with our beautiful volunteer, Heather.

Opening the Conversation with Heather

Heather: Hello? Hello. Good evening. Was it good morning for you?

Brandy: It was a beautiful morning. Thank you. And how’s your day been?

Heather: Okay.

Brandy: Okay. I like it. And so what can I help you with today, beautiful?

Heather: Right. Um, well it seems I have been diagnosed with spinal stenosis. I was actually diagnosed about 2020—physiotherapy and… This year, my daughter had secondary cancer. She sends her love, too, by the way. And I was over there with her for February, March, and April and walking all over the place, up and down steps without any banisters, with a dog. No problems at all.

I played golf three times a week and do Pilates and fit. I came home, I fell over—no reason whatsoever that I could think of, but there is, it would be in your country, a shopping mall. That was fine. Bruised my knee, put cold ice on it, whatever. But that was the 2nd of May. I played golf two or three times. Then it sort of just got worse. And I’ve been having lots of physiotherapy.

In July, I went to see a consultant and had an MRI scan, which said, “You’ve got spinal stenosis and it has affected the nerves from your spine into your legs.” I’d totally forgotten I got stens. I never bothered to tell the physiotherapist because I just thought it was an unfortunate fall. It seems to be going on and on. So I have—

…the last two weeks, the physiotherapist said, “The doctors must put you on strong pain relief pills,” which I’ve just had two weeks—not made much difference. So basically, that’s it. And it’s not helping my situation… active woman I’m used to being and have been with my daughter.

Brandy: Okay, I hear you. I hear you. And—bingo. Um, also, I’m going to ask you to breathe, and if I ask you your current level of pain right now, what is your current level of pain, zero to ten?

Heather: It’s mediocre, really. It’s when I get up and I walk, then my leg goes—it’s in the groin. Sometimes I feel it when I’m sitting. Most of the time I can ignore it, but it’s when I get up, I can walk for a bit and then the leg goes.

Brandy: Okay. And what level is it right now, in this very moment?

Heather: It’s just mediocre, but it’s a nuisance. Yep. Maybe I’ll just go for five.

Brandy: Okay. And I’m going to ask you to breathe.

Brandy: And I’m going to ask you to notice the part of you who has been afraid that you are going to lose your daughter. Can you see that?

Heather: Yes, of course.

Brandy: Yep. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. So I’m going to ask you—and what if you didn’t lose her?

Okay, so I’m going to ask you to breathe. There’s no emotion here, right? Not at all. Not at all. No, no tears here at all. So I’m going to ask you to breathe.

Bingo. Okay, so I’m going to ask you to breathe. Bingo. Give me one second. If I ask you, is she doing better, worse, or the same than she was before?

Heather: I’m hoping she’s doing as well as she was last time. We’re waiting for the next PET scan. It was amazing. Right. Amazing progress.

Brandy: Okay, so I’m going to ask you to breathe. Bingo and bingo. I’m going to ask you to breathe. And I’m going to ask you to notice what it would feel like if you knew that you could trust life. If you knew that you were going to be okay, and you knew you could trust life, how would you feel right now?

So I’m going to ask you to breathe.

Releasing Guilt and Fear

Bingo. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And I want you to notice the part of you that’s beating yourself up. Can you see that?

Heather: That’s my brain, I suppose.

Brandy: Okay, so—bingo. Give me one second. If I ask you, zero to ten, how much you feel like things are your fault, zero to ten, what’s your level?

Heather: Not really. Happens in life, doesn’t it?

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And so if I ask you, zero to ten, how much things are your fault, the answer would be then what?

Heather: I can’t really answer it because—

Brandy: So would the answer be zero?

Heather: Zero.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. So if I ask you how much this is your fault, the answer would be zero, correct?

Heather: Sounds hard.

Brandy: It sounds what hard?

Heather: But things happen in life, don’t they?

Brandy: Hey, but wait a second. Why is it hard to say it’s not your fault?

Heather: I think I’m feeling guilty because I’m saying it’s not my fault. Sounds stupid.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And we’ll say it sounds silly instead of stupid. Stupid could sound judgmental, but yes, silly will do.

Heather: Silly will do.

Brandy: Great. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. Yeah. So I’m going to ask you to breathe and take in the feeling that it isn’t your fault, but how wonderful it is that you’re showing up in a beautiful way and you’re believing in her. You’re believing in her, and you’re supportive of her. You’re ready to see her heal herself and do this, right?

Heather: Yes, please.

Brandy: Great. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. Bingo. And so I want you to notice the part of you that’s been feeling guilty or like you’re not doing enough. If I ask you, zero to ten, how much you can find that feeling—

Heather: I can’t do anymore, Brandy. I be here, I’m at the end, you know?

Brandy: Yep, yep. I can’t do anymore. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. Now I’m going to reflect this to you, okay? I’m going to say this: If I say it’s not my fault, I feel guilty saying that it’s not my fault—what sense does that make?

Heather: None.

Brandy: None. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. So you know guilt is the wrong feeling. Feeling bad is the wrong feeling. Believing in her is the right feeling. Celebrating her is the right feeling.

So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And I’m going to ask you to take in the feeling—bingo—of believing in her. What would that feel like? Like if you knew she was going to do this, if you knew she was going to do this, if you knew, how would you feel?

Heather: Elated. Elated. Elated.

Brandy: So I’m going to ask you to breathe. Bingo. And I’m going to ask you to notice your level of pain, zero to ten. What’s your level?

Heather: Same as 4 or 5.

Brandy: I got about a 4.3. Give me one second. Bingo. All right. So we’re going to go a little deeper and I’m going to ask you to notice the part of you that expects that she’s not going to be able to do this. Can you see that?

Heather: There’s a part of me that’s frightened that it’s not going to—yeah.

Brandy: Mm-hmm. So I’m going to ask you to breathe.

Strength, Trust, and the Healing Journey

Brandy: All right, so let’s go ahead and pause it just for a quick moment because I want to give you a little bit of background story really quickly. And it’s this—this actual podcast episode session was actually recorded about three months ago. And the reason I did not release it right away is because I didn’t want to put pressure on mother or daughter—so neither of them.

And so I just let some time pass. And the beautiful thing is, as she mentioned, that first PET scan came back hugely better, and everything has continued to improve tremendously, which is a huge difference from where she was. And I’m so stoked. She’s got a bit more to go, but she’s headed in the right direction and her doctors are amazed with her. She is a beautiful, beautiful being.

So just giving you a little backstory, but that’s why you notice she’s feeling afraid. And this is what I also love—when we’re talking about this feeling of being afraid, there’s also sometimes the very thing that you need to do, of course, when you’re in a situation that doesn’t look good, which is where her daughter was. She stepped into her strength. And that’s what I love, and I have so much respect for that.

And that’s where we’re going as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Heather. Here we go.

Brandy: Now, by the way, when she learned how to walk growing up, did she just stand up and start walking right away or did she stand up and fall, stand up and fall, and then she got it?

Heather: She got it pretty quickly, actually. She was fearless.

Brandy: Okay. So what you’re saying is being fearless and going into the strength helped her, is what you’re saying?

Heather: I just remember being—we had a difficult area where we lived and she was—it didn’t faze her when she was a little one.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And how proud were you of her then?

Heather: So proud.

Brandy: So what happens if she does that same thing now? Exactly what you mean. Sorry. Yes, she’s had these issues with illness and whatnot, but she literally steps up into the fearlessness and really steps up in her strength and does this—what does that look like?

Heather: Fantastic.

Brandy: Isn’t that how your daughter is, though?

Heather: She is. That’s who she is, right?

Brandy: So I’m going to ask you to breathe—strength. Yep. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And every single time that she fell before—if she fell or this or that—did you go, “Oh my gosh, is she okay?” or did you trust that she was going to get back up and do it even better?

Heather: She’s very resilient. I mean, it’s a long time ago.

Brandy: Yes, exactly. But I have a question. How much has she shown resilience in life?

Heather: A lot.

Brandy: Okay. So even if she’s fallen, so to speak, could you believe in her to do this and go all the way?

Heather: Yeah.

Brandy: So when would you be willing to let go of your fear? And also, I want you to notice the part of you that’s also felt really angry at life. Can you see that?

Heather: I guess one is when stuff—horrible stuff—happens to your family.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And if you knew that it was going to work out, if you knew she would do this, how angry would you feel with life?

Heather: One would be feeling completely different about life. One would be feeling very different about life.

Brandy: Right? Now I have a question for you. How much do you believe your thoughts help create your life?

Heather: I never thought about it until I heard about you and read your book.

Brandy: Okay. Almost halfway through?

Heather: Nearly halfway.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. Bingo.

…continuing in Part 4

Brandy: So you’ve heard before maybe that a woman with an abusive father can leave him and find the abusive boyfriend, boss, spouse—the pattern can continue, right?

Heather: Yes, I’ve read it in your book. It is a thing. People do end up like that.

Brandy: Okay. Or even if you think about it, people might end up in a place where—have you ever heard people can marry somebody just like their mother or father?

Heather: Oh yes.

Brandy: So on a very grounded note, we can see how childhood patterns or patterns in life or whatnot can continue to create more of the same, right? So I’m going to ask you to breathe. So notice for a moment—you’ve had the stenosis for a long time, and yet the pain was completely not even there for a long time, and then suddenly came back, right?

Heather: I had a fall.

Brandy: Okay. And if I ask you to notice—so if I ask you to take in the awareness that stress affects the physical body, right?

Heather: Yes, it does.

Brandy: Okay. Now let’s even think about post-surgical results. So even after surgery, if somebody’s more optimistic, the body heals faster. And if somebody’s in stress and fear, they have a much higher rate of complications and rehospitalization, right?

Heather: Yes.

Brandy: So you had a fall, right? And your mental state—is it more in a place of happiness, positivity, and optimistic about the future, or fear and stress and worry about the future? What would you say?

Heather: I wasn’t that down.

Brandy: Yes, but I’m going to—I hear you. So I’m going to ask you to breathe and close.

Zero to ten, what is your level of fear towards your daughter been? What is the level of fear?

Heather: I suppose it’s high.

Brandy: So I’m going to ask you to breathe. What I want you to notice is you’re very headstrong where you suppress it on the inside, but if you really check into it, you realize it’s pretty high on the inside. You can see that, right?

Heather: Yes.

Brandy: So notice so much—when I mentioned it, it brought tears to your eyes.

Heather: I’ve been crying nearly all the way through this so far.

Brandy: So notice for a moment—but you’re also simultaneously telling me you’re not very down in life. So you’ve been crying yourself all the way through it, but that’s normal, right?

So I’m going to ask you to breathe. Yes, I get that you suppress it. And then you also have a tendency to bury it—you’re very headstrong and move forward. And both are true. Can you see that?

Heather: Oh yes. Because you have to put on a brave front. You have to.

Brandy: So I’m going to ask you to breathe and notice—if you knew that she would make it, if you knew, knew, knew that she would make it—how would you feel about life and your future?

Heather: Great. Thrilled. Great.

Brandy: And I’m going to ask you to breathe. And what would happen to that inner feeling inside of you of fear and stress and hurt and upset?

Heather: It’d be gone, wouldn’t it?

Brandy: It’d be gone. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. Bingo. It would be gone. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And I’m going to ask you, zero to ten, what’s your current level right now of your pain?

Heather: I might have to stand up to tell. Is that all right?

Brandy: Mm-hmm.

Heather: Say three and a half. Three. Three and a half.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe.

Brandy: Okay. And so if I ask you, is there anything that I could say that would make you feel even better and better and better, and trust more in your daughter and believe more in her and let go of the fear—is there anything that I could say?

Heather: I have to say it to myself.

Brandy: Oh, and so what are you willing to say to yourself to get yourself to do that?

Heather: That my girl is going to win this battle—no, it’s not a battle, but she’s gonna—she’ll do it. She’ll do it.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. So then, if you knew that and you really felt that, what would your emotions inside be doing right now?

Heather: Weeping with joy.

Brandy: Weeping with joy. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And I want you to feel that on the inside—what it would feel like if you knew she’s going to do it all the way—and they’re weeping with joy on the inside. Because you’re believing in her, and you feel that. You feel it from head to toe. You feel that inside you. You know it. You feel it. You trust it. You know it. What would that feel like on the inside?

Heather: Bursting with excitement, wanting to tell everybody.

Brandy: Okay. Wouldn’t it be great? I mean, imagine bursting with excitement to tell everybody, right?

Heather: Yeah.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe. So I’m going to ask you to breathe, and I want you to picture what that looks like—bursting with excitement to tell everybody. Bingo. And I’m going to ask you to breathe.

And it’s like taking in the awareness that, okay, if she has—just like with learning how to walk—if she has some ups and downs and ups and downs and ups and downs, you’re not freaking out. How much did you believe in her? She was going to be able to walk?

Heather: Totally.

Brandy: Did you hold on and panic for every single second as she—you didn’t, right? You didn’t hold on. Okay. So if you knew that she was going to do this, you wouldn’t hold on to panic to every single test and every single this and every single that. You’ll be like, “Okay, I’ve got this. I’m going to breathe. I believe in her. I’m not going to hold on for every little panic and every little step, and I’m going to be okay,” right?

So I’m going to ask you to breathe. What would that feel like if you’re waiting to celebrate, but not holding on with every little step to panic—to blah blah blah—but you’re just waiting to celebrate? What would that feel like if you really knew, if you really knew, you had full 100% faith, trust, belief—what would that feel like?

Heather: Total relief.

Brandy: Okay. So I’m going to ask you to breathe.

Brandy: And what else could I say to make you feel that even more or better—as you wisely said—what else could you say to make yourself feel better and better?

Heather: That I must have faith in my daughter to do this.

Brandy: Yeah. I have a question for you. I want you to picture for a moment that you were working on your—say you were 25 years old or 30 years old—and you’re working on a career. Something in your career, right? Your career. And your parents don’t believe in you at all. How would that feel to you if you’re working on something in your career and your parents just don’t believe in you?

Heather: Not nice at all.

Brandy: Okay. Now, let’s say your parents did believe in you 100%. They believed in you, they supported you, and they believed in you 100%—that you could do anything. How would that feel to you?

Heather: Confidence.

Brandy: So I’m going to ask you to breathe. And even if you started believing in her just for her, wouldn’t that be a great feeling? So does not believing in her or living in fear help?

Heather: Not one iota.

Brandy: Not one iota. Living in fear, being in fear, expecting the worst—blah blah blah—it doesn’t help one iota. Believing in her does though. Believing, right? How much does believing in her help?

Heather: A lot.

Brandy: Great. And what’s the benefit of living in fear and negative expectation? I have a question. Does it protect you from getting hurt?

Heather: Not in the slightest.

Brandy: Not in the slightest. It actually expands it. Some people think, “Oh, well if I just expect the worst and then the worst happens, I protected myself.” Well, how? It’s still going to hurt. There’s no—it doesn’t protect you to have a negative expectation, right? So I’m going to ask you to breathe.

Continuing the Transformation and Wrap-Up

Brandy Gillmore: All right, so let’s go ahead and actually pause the session right here. Now, first and foremost, I’m so impressed with her. She’s got the pain down from a level five down to a level one, which is brilliant and beautiful. And of course, she’s doing it—which is absolutely incredible.

Now, I want to give you a few insights.

Suppressed Fear and Surface Positivity

A lot of people have suppressed fear. I see it all the time, especially with people who are very headstrong. They keep pushing through, often without realizing how much fear they’re holding inside. That was me too. I had no idea how much fear I was suppressing.

People often work on positive thinking, which is great, but if it’s only used to cover up or suppress deeper fear and hurt, that’s a problem. It doesn’t lead to real healing.

Think of it like a relationship. Someone might deeply love their partner but also carry anger or hurt. Simply focusing on love won’t make the underlying pain disappear. That emotional hurt needs to be transformed, not hidden.

Heather’s Journey and the Role of Guilt

Now, looking at Heather’s journey, what’s interesting is that her pain would often show up more when she did physical activity. This ties into feelings of guilt—guilt for doing things for herself, even though she knows it’s necessary for her wellbeing and health.

She even felt guilty just for saying her daughter’s illness wasn’t her fault. That kind of guilt weighs heavy—and it shows up physically.

Important Takeaways for Healing

• Release suppressed emotions—don’t bury fear or guilt.
• Let go of guilt around living your own life, even if someone close to you is suffering.
• Believe in others—your belief in them is empowering and healing, for them and for you.

When someone believes in you, it feels incredible. So why not offer that same gift of belief to others? Not from a place of fear—but from strength and love.

Why the Session Ends Here

I rarely stop sessions early, but this one had a specific reason: the audio quality was difficult. There were background noises and clicks that took a lot of effort to clean. And most importantly, the key shift had already occurred.

After our conversation, Heather’s pain stayed down. When it rose slightly after walking more, she brought it back down again. That’s a sign of someone actively using and reinforcing the changes—doing the work.

You can see in this episode how amazed she was by what she was achieving. It’s beautiful and powerful. And it’s something we all can do when we commit to change.

Wrapping Up with Love and Encouragement

If you take one thing from this episode, let it be this: You’re allowed to be happy. Even when others are hurting, you can still live your life. In fact, your happiness can be part of their healing too.

Let go of fear. Let go of guilt. Step into belief—in yourself, and in those you love.

As always, please hit the share button. Share this episode with someone you care about—or even someone you don’t know. The more we empower each other to heal, the more we uplift the entire world.

Have a beautiful, incredible rest of your day. I look forward to connecting with you on the next episode. We’ll see you there.

Thank You and Final Notes

Thank you for listening to Heal Yourself, Change Your Life.

If today’s episode touched your heart or expanded your mind in any way, please share it. Every share creates a ripple of change in our world. As more people are empowered to heal and grow, the collective consciousness shifts for the better.

Remember, while each volunteer needs to follow through on their journey, this podcast is here to show you what is possible. You really can transform your health and your life—if you understand how to use your mind.

You are amazing. You are powerful.

If you’d like to be a volunteer or send questions, visit brandygillmore.com/podcast.

And of course, continue working with your doctors. Let your healing amaze them.

Thank you.