You’re doing the inner work—staying mindful, noticing your patterns, working on your mindset—so why are you still feeling stuck? Or worse… why are new symptoms showing up?
In this episode of mind-body healing in action, Brandy works with Jackie, whose symptoms haven’t just plateaued—in some ways, they’ve even begun to escalate, with new symptoms emerging. And she’s not resisting the work… instead, she’s accidentally reinforcing the very emotional patterns that are fueling her pain.
In real time, you’ll discover:
This episode is fun, playful, powerful, and full of those deep “aha” moments! You’ll walk away with a clearer path to true mind-body healing—one that feels lighter, freer, and more aligned.
Listen now to learn how to stop unknowingly reinforcing stuck patterns—and start unlocking real emotional freedom from the inside out.
IMPORTANT NOTE: We understand that some may believe mind-body healing is impossible. Therefore, if you would like to see images of individuals using their minds to relieve pain, you can check out this medical journal. It includes images from some of Brandy's case studies. If you want to learn how to use your mind to heal yourself, you can check out the training on Brandy's website. Each week, Brandy publishes a volunteer episode where she coaches a volunteer to heal themselves using their own mind. In addition, Brandy shares a quick IQ episode (Insights and Questions) where she answers listener questions or delves deeper into insights on working with the mind for healing.
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Welcome to Heal Yourself, Change Your Life. My name is Brandy Gillmore, and after recovering from my own life changing injury, it’s become my mission to share with others the same discoveries I made that changed my health and my entire life. Our minds are truly incredible. The placebo is proof of this.
Each week I will take this simple awareness to a whole new level. I’ll even coach live callers to free themselves of physical pain using only their mind, and then I’ll provide you with a combination of practical and spiritual insights that you can use to master your mind, your emotions, and your energy to help you heal your health, yourself, and your life.
Let’s begin.
Hello and welcome. It is so wonderful to connect with you. I just love that you are here continuing to expand your mind, your energy, your consciousness, your healing. I just love it and I love today’s episode. It is just so relevant in what can happen in the mind when we start working with the mind and how working with the mind can be a bit tricky.
You know, all of the time I’ll see people who are trying to ultimately, you know, work with their mind and they’re kind of bypassing the problem where they’re just thinking positively. Or even what can happen is people will start to become aware of their patterns and then maybe they become reactive to them more so, you know, more righteous or determined or upset or, you know, once they notice something that is bothering them, even though they don’t realize it.
Which may sound odd, but you’ll notice as we go through today’s episode as I’m working with our beautiful volunteer, Jackie, you’ll notice that there are certain things that come up for her that she’s been working on, but working on in a way that’s actually kind of increasing the problem. Actually making her health issues kind of increase, if you will, and show up in a variety of different ways, which may sound confusing, but it’ll all make sense as we dive in.
But the biggest thing you’ll want to know is that the mind can be a bit tricky, but of course once we start to work with the mind in a different way. That’s when everything can change and it’s really beautiful and incredible and empowering.
And that, of course, is where we’re going. And so on that note, let’s go ahead and step in with our beautiful volunteer, Jackie. Here we go.
Brandy: Hi.
Jackie: Hi.
Brandy: How’s it going?
Jackie: Good. How are you?
Brandy: I’m doing fantastic, thank you. It’s wonderful to connect with you.
Jackie: Thank you. It’s good to connect with you too.
Brandy: Thank you so much. What can I do for you today, beautiful?
Jackie: Um, okay. I’m trying to clear some last leftover stuff and I feel like I have some stuck points. I was wondering if you can help me figure it out.
Brandy: Fantastic. Absolutely. Let’s dive into that. So what is feeling stuck?
Jackie: Okay, I, um… so I have several issues that are almost gone, but I feel like they’ve plateaued for a long time — and now I’m getting new health issues popping up. So I’m trying to figure out what’s in the way.
Alright, so let’s go ahead and pause it just for a quick moment. You know, first and foremost, I love her self-awareness. I love her self honesty, just beautiful, and I understand so much that feeling of, you can see there’s a feeling of frustration where she’s, you know, feeling stuck. She’s like, she mentioned, she’s been trying to work with her mind and she’s trying to do things, but she’s feeling like there’s a plateau.
So she’s, she’s stuck. And also, not only is she feeling stuck. But the health issues are increasing, so she’s got some new things going on in different areas, which can hint to you that somehow that there’s an increase in negative emotions somewhere, a negative mindset, so it’s a little tricky.
But that’s where we’re going as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Jackie. Here we go.
Brandy: Bingo. So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Okay? Okay. So, uh, can you go ahead, can you, uh, what is a specific issue that you’re working on? Okay, so, uh, I have like a nervous system thing ever since I got COVID and it’s like tightness. In several places. Okay. So it’s like my feet, like tarsal tunnel syndrome, carpal tunnel syndrome.
Brandy: Um, my pelvic floor is really tight. It hurts to sit. And now I have a new neck thing going on and Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Okay? Okay. All right. So, uh, let’s go. Okay. So as far as your, your hands and your wrists, what’s the level of pain or tightness in them? The thing is, I don’t feel it until I try to exert myself.
Brandy: Okay. So like if I go do good to know, good to know. I’m okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Gimme one second. Gimme one second. So you were about to say, if I go do pushups, it will hurt. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, like it’s hard to go to the gym and stuff. Bingo. Okay. So gimme one second. You also said it hurts to sit, right? Yeah. Okay.
Brandy: And uh, do you have pain right now? Yeah, it just feels like I’m sitting on a, like a sharp stone right on my left sit bone. Okay. And so, um, it’s very minimal right now though. And so if I ask you your current level of pain, what’s your level right now? I’d say like a two. 1, 2, 2 3, somewhere in there. Okay. So, uh, so I see you.
Jackie: Okay. Uh, and then, uh, as far as your neck, uh, what’s going on with your neck? Um, I can actually turn out a lot more than I could a couple days ago. So like, right now it’s just, if I bend down, it hurts, like just in my, like upper back and neck. Okay. And sometimes if I look up, okay. And if I ask you when you do bend down, uh, or look down, uh, what is the current level?
Brandy: Um, it’s all, it’s probably three or three. Okay. And, uh, okay. So gimme one second. Bingo. All right. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
Brandy: Bingo. Okay. And, uh, if I ask you zero to 10 how much you’re feeling critical of yourself on a regular basis, what would you say? Zero to 10? 10, maybe nine. 10. Okay. 9, 10, 12, somewhere in there. Okay. 15. 15. Okay. So, uh, all right, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe and. I know, right? You should totally be critical of yourself.
Brandy: That totally, absolutely makes sense, right? To just be mean to yourself. I mean, it’s a great plan. Yeah. No, it’s an amazing plan. No, Randy, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Okay. So I want you to notice for a moment the part of you who feels like you should be doing more. Okay, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe
Brandy: Bingo. And there’s a part of you that has a trigger, like an anger towards should like a trigger of, okay. Now by the way, if I ask you zero to 10 how you feel about should and how much you feel a fight energy towards should, what would you say if fight energy towards it? What would you say fight energy towards should.
Brandy: It’s kinda like this. So if I say the word, um, I am, how annoyed do you feel by that word? I am zero. Okay. Apple. How annoyed do you feel by the word apple? Zero. How? Okay, so the word should, how annoyed do you feel by the word should? Especially if you say you should probably like a eight. That’s exactly what I would’ve said.
Jackie: I love your awareness. Okay. Absolutely agree. There’s like a, okay, so now if I ask you, let’s say you’re triggered by an apple at a level eight. How is your relationship with an apple? Well, I don’t wanna see it or talk to it or ever talk to it. I don’t want, I don’t want apples around. So you don’t wanna talk to apples anymore?
Brandy: I love it. I love your sense of humor. You’re just, you’re beautiful. Beautiful. Thank you for being playful. Um, and I love that you said talk to an apple. Okay. So I had to, I had to kind of play off what you said. It was perfect. So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Okay. So, um, okay. So there’s a part of you that’s angry regarding the word should.
Brandy: Can you see that? Yeah. I see, I see what you’re saying now. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So zero to 10, how much are you angry at your friend Apple? Zero. Okay. And, uh, how much are you angry at strawberries? Zero. Zero. Okay. And so. You should really not be angry about that. Just joking.
Brandy: You should. I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Okay? And, uh, there’s a righteous feeling around you should, like, you, sh there’s, there’s a righteousness. Like you should be angry because you should. Okay? Now, if I ask you to breathe. Now I’m gonna push you a little bit, just so you know. Okay. I might, might actually push you a lot.
Brandy: Okay? Okay. Just so you know. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. I’m gonna push, I’m going to push. So why are you so easily triggered with You should, I mean, it’s just a word, like really? Are you really not easily triggered. I’m gonna ask you to. I want you to notice number one, the answer is yes. You’re triggered by those words and upset and righteous and angry and upset and all of these things, and notice for a moment, okay, it’s not that big of a deal wording.
Brandy: Okay? Hey, you should do this. You should, okay. Not that big of a deal. Like it’s not like if I told you I’m pretty upset in life, somebody said You should to me. And it just like, I’m really upset. Just for a moment, I want you to pretend like your life is more important than that. Pretend. Okay. Way more important.
Brandy: So much more important. Now, I want you to think about love, happiness, joy, success, healing, happy, joy, fun, all of the things. Travel, whatever it is that you’re wanting from life, and how much the words you should is really that big of a deal. Not in com. It’s like nothing in comparison. Bingo. It is nothing in comparison.
Brandy: Right.
All right, so let’s go ahead and pause it just for a quick moment. I love her sense of humor. I love her self‑awareness — just beautiful. And of course, she’s not going to talk to apples anymore, so I love that. I love that she has such a great sense of humor.
You’ll notice coming up, I end up making up some words. It’s silly, it’s playful, it’s fun, and it’s wonderful. And I just love that.
Part of the reason I’m also being a bit ridiculous and playful is because she has had a tendency to be really critical of herself. Being playful and having fun with it is key. That’s something you want to do with yourself: be playful, be fun.
But also notice — I’m being playful and fun, but I’m also pushing her. Like when I said I’m going to push the “should” thing. Let’s be honest — in our culture there’s this growing idea that “you shouldn’t should on yourself.” You’ve probably heard that before.
There’s actually a growing number of people with this pattern — and it’s affecting their health and life. Notice there’s an upset and an anger toward it. And it’s just wording.
What I love is when we can make it insignificant in the bigger picture. When we can say: “You know what? Our lives, our future, our happiness, our joy — these are more important than being upset by some words.”
So often, people make themselves more and more offended, more and more sensitive to things. But it’s actually powerful to go the opposite direction — to make it hard to offend you.
When you don’t take things personally, you recognize that if someone has an issue, it’s their issue — you don’t have to take it on. That doesn’t have to upset you.
Instead of being upset by certain words, you can think: “Not a big deal.”
Something else to notice: initially, when I mentioned the words “you should,” she didn’t really see the link. That’s why I started giving her contrast — so she could see it more clearly. Eventually, she recognized that she had developed anger toward those words, and she described it as very high.
That’s what can make this tricky. Often, people think they’re working on improving their mindset, but instead of actually getting rid of negative patterns, they unintentionally increase their outrage and defensiveness toward them.
You want to make sure that as you’re working with your mind — and even in daily life — you’re not amping yourself up about things. Instead, you want to transform yourself so you genuinely feel better.
When you do, your energy transforms.
And that’s exactly where we’re going as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer.
Brandy: So I want you to notice how these words have become trigger words because people shouldn’t say “you should” and then they “should” on you. And what if you “should” on somebody and blah, blah, blah. Like, just for a moment — isn’t it really not that big of a deal? Yes, we can phrase things differently, sure…
Brandy: But just for a moment, I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And notice the upset and the righteousness you have around these words. Can you see that?
Jackie: Yeah.
Brandy: It was kind of funny, by the way… you know, I love to go to the gym, work out, or even play pickleball. It’s fun, it’s social, you get out there, you enjoy it. And sometimes people — there’s a line down the center between you and your partner — and if you hit a ball on their side, they get super offended.
Brandy: For me, I’m not offended. I literally tell people: “Wherever it goes, go for it — we’re all good.” I like to flow with people. Even if they make a mistake, I’ll say, “Great job, partner.” My point is — some people take offense so easily.
Brandy: I’m gonna ask you to breathe. What happens if you flow with life? Even if someone says something like, “You should…” — what if you’re not so easily triggered? What would that look like?
Jackie: Oh my gosh, it’d be such a relief.
Brandy: Exactly. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe again. Less pressure.
Jackie: Less what?
Brandy: Pressure. Bingo. Now notice your neck and your back.
Jackie: Neck is the same… do you mean my sit bone area for “back”?
Brandy: Yep.
Jackie: That has gone down — and I noticed it specifically when I said “less pressure.”
Brandy: Bingo. Now… if you say “you should” to somebody, it could be negative, sure — but it could also be positive. “You should go to Greece — that would be amazing.” Or “You should travel Europe for a couple weeks and just enjoy it.” Are you upset about that?
Jackie: No.
Brandy: Okay. I want you to notice for a moment — can you give me your mom’s first initial?
Jackie: D.
Brandy: Bingo. How much did you feel pressured by her to do things?
Jackie: Maybe a six or seven… probably higher back then.
Brandy: And how much have you been upset about people pressuring you in life?
Jackie: Maybe like a 20.
Brandy: Right. So here’s the thing — you assigned two words, “you should,” and thought the words were the problem — not the feeling behind them.
Jackie: So it was actually a fight with the words, when the real issue was the emotion of pressure — from everyone, including myself.
Brandy: Exactly. Now, what happens if instead of pressure, you turn it into excitement? Instead of feeling pressure from life, what if you felt excited about life?
Jackie: That would be so much better.
Brandy: Think about it — you’re driving and you’re going to be 20 minutes late for a very important meeting. Pressure level?
Jackie: A lot.
Brandy: Now imagine you’re driving with music up, windows down, beautiful outside — pressure level?
Jackie: Zero.
Brandy: Exactly. That’s the difference. The feeling is what matters — not just the words “you should.”
Jackie: Makes sense.
Brandy: But here’s the other thing — now the words “you should” make you angry.
Jackie: Right.
Brandy: Which means instead of transforming the feeling, you’ve been fighting it. This turns into a battle with the words themselves.
Brandy: It’s like this: You’re late, you feel pressure, but instead of asking, “How do I shift into flow?” you start resisting time itself. That’s why I call it a 180 shift — you consciously choose to feel a different way and wire it in.
Brandy: Now, what’s your sit bone level right now?
Jackie: About the same. Sometimes it even goes up.
Brandy: Bingo. I want you to notice — your body’s telling you that details feel like a pain in the… sit bone.
Jackie: Oh my gosh, is that why it’s hurting?
Brandy: Exactly. Now, how are you with computers?
Jackie: Really good — and those details are fun.
Brandy: Were they fun at first?
Jackie: For me, yes. But not all programs — some were harder.
Brandy: But now, even the hard ones can be fun. Photoshop?
Jackie: Very fun.
Brandy: Most people find Photoshop frustrating. But here’s the thing — working with your mind is far more important than Photoshop. Yet you’re treating it like a chore.
Brandy: Nobody is pressuring you to change — except you. You can make this fun.
Brandy: And when you learn to work with your mind, it can take you places Photoshop never could.
Brandy: So you can think of it as “pressure”… or as an exciting opportunity.
Brandy: Now, notice — there’s a part of you holding frustration.
Jackie: Yeah.
Brandy: Zero to 10?
Jackie: Nine.
Brandy: Interesting. And I’m not pressuring you to change. I’m saying you could keep it if you want. I mean, I wouldn’t recommend it, I wouldn’t wanna do that. But if that’s your thing, go for it. I mean, let me know how that goes for you, or not? Because I wouldn’t recommend it, but you could absolutely feel frustrated. Now. Uh, gimme one second.
All right, so let’s go ahead and pause it just for a quick moment. I absolutely love her self-awareness, her sense of humor — brilliant, playful, and perfect.
Here’s an insight I want you to think about: so often people believe that mind-body healing must involve some kind of trauma or wounding. And yes — there is a feeling of pressure here — but notice that a huge part of what’s actually increasing the problem is the righteousness and upset toward the phrase “you should.”
In other words, there was already this baseline pressure, but the “you should” adds a layer of righteous indignation and even annoyance toward the nuances — the details. But really, we want to feel excited to learn the details.
And I love that she’s excited to learn tech — because so often, people are excited to learn something new. But when it comes to the power of the mind, the more you understand the details, the more powerful your results will be.
Our minds are so specific — more advanced than even AI and the most advanced computers. They work in specifics. Yet, many people think working with the mind is just about thinking positively, meditating, or visualizing. But the mind thrives on specificity.
Think about it: speaking English versus speaking Spanish requires specific knowledge. Even emotions are specific — nervousness might bring a nervous stomach or sweaty palms, but embarrassment causes a red face. The difference may seem subtle, but mastering those details can transform your health, happiness, and life.
My hope is that the details feel fun and exciting — because when you master them, you create real change. That’s why I’m careful not to pressure her. Pressure is already a major part of her story — whether it came from her mother growing up or from herself.
Instead, I’m inviting her to make it fun to feel differently about it. Not “don’t do anything” or “relax and do nothing” — but feel alive, feel good, feel excited.
And I know for some people that may feel like a big ask. But please keep in mind — during my own injury, I was in extreme pain and fatigue for years. I had to lift my emotions, get excited about life, and rewire my subconscious mind to heal myself.
Getting excited to learn new things or to feel differently is key. That’s exactly what we want — the ability to rewire our own minds so we feel differently about the very things that used to weigh us down.
And that’s what I’m asking her to do: be empowered, be willing to change, and choose to feel in a new way.
And with that, let’s step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Jackie.
Brandy: Now, if I ask you to notice a part of you growing up that might demand your way and get your way, if I ask you zero to 10 how much you felt like that worked, even if it didn’t work that well, if you got frustrated how much you felt like you got your way, what would you say? I don’t feel like I did, but I, no, I was, Nope.
Jackie: Maybe I, I don’t remember. Okay. So, uh, bingo. Okay, so let’s do like this. Well, I’m gonna ask you to breathe. If you know that frustration is not actually gonna help you get your way, it’s actually just going to attract more frustration. How long do you wanna do that for?
Brandy: I don’t, I mean, I, I want to say that I don’t, but I can tell I’m hanging onto it. Okay. So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe and I want you to notice the part of you that feels like you have a right to be frustrated. Yeah. And why? If I came to Earth and I was like, I have a right to be frustrated, you would be like, Hmm, that’s interesting.
Brandy: Like I would want people to say, I have a right to have a great life and to be loved and to be happy and and to be joyful. But people all the time are like, I have a right to be angry. I have a right to be. Okay. That’s the life you wanna create. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Now, this is what I want you to notice.
Jackie: If I ask you how much you have a feeling. Of wanting to pressure yourself to hurry up and do this. Zero to 10. What’s your level 10? Yes. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe and what the heck are you doing?
Jackie: So I’m gonna ask you to breathe you. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Yes. Pressure yourself. This is gonna happen. It’s not. It’s gonna take me the other way. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Absolutely. So I have a question for you. Going back to the picture of driving, you’re 20 minutes late for a meeting that you really, really wanna be on time for, for an appointment, how much pressure do you feel?
Brandy: Mm seven. And how aggravated would you be? Frustrated. What would you say? It was? Just 10. Okay. Now, let’s say you didn’t have any pressure. How aggravated, aggravated, and frustrated would you be? It’s still there a little bit. Okay. Zero to 10, huh? I’ll say a two. Okay. So notice how much the pressure that you’re putting yourself under, okay.
Jackie: Is increasing the frustration, right? Huh? Now notice how I said don’t be flowy and enjoy and laugh, and I said, hurry up. We have a limited amount of time. Get on top of it right now. Remember when I said that? Yes. I don’t, oh, okay. I don’t, did I, did I, did I rush you? No. Did I say hurry? You didn’t. I didn’t. So where’s the pressure coming from?
Brandy: In my head. Oh, okay. If you think about it, I even shared a story about pickleball and playing around, right? Yeah. And we’re, so how much does it feel like, I’m really trying to rush you. You’re not, I’m not. I wonder where this pressure’s coming from. Do you have any ideas? Is it like a perfectionism thing? No, it’s like a pressure thing.
Brandy: Okay. But there’s a per, there’s, of course, there’s a perfectionist, but there’s a, okay, watch this. Let’s put it this way. I want you to think about a perfectionist. How many are rushing themselves with pressure? Probably all of them. Maybe some of them could be meticulous and perfectionist. Oh, so it’s two different patterns.
Brandy: I, I see. Okay. Okay. Well, technically it’s like three or four different patterns. ’cause rushing could be rushing in a great way. Like let’s say you’re rushing to do something and it’s gonna be fun and fantastic. That rushing could be, but perfection is another, but pressure is another. Frustration is another.
Brandy: Some people they go under pressure and they’re like, okay, I’m in determination. I’m gonna make this happen. So some people go into like, okay, like the pressure’s on, let’s do this. Let’s go game on. Like in a good way. Yeah, absolutely. So you’re saying I can use pressure in a better way, in like an actual positive way.
Brandy: Let me ask you, bingo. Let’s say this. So could you. Absolutely. Right. So let’s say bingo. See, it’s, it might not work for you because you’re so programmed. I mean, yes. If you reprogram yourself. Yeah. So kind of like this, I want you to picture there’s a child who’s told. If they get their shoes on quickly, they can go to Disneyland.
Brandy: How’s their face? Happy. Happy. Where is there pressure? No, they get to go, they get their shoes on quickly. There is, there’s a hurry to get it done right. Oh, I just assume they get to go to Disneyland anyway, so it’s like, yeah, but, but there’s still like, oh my God, get in the car. Oh my gosh. Get in the car.
Brandy: We’re going to Disneyland, but you gotta get in the car right now. Is there pressure? It doesn’t feel like there’s pressure. It’s just excitement. Okay. So there you go right now. Bingo. So it just depends on how you feel about it. I see. Pressure’s probably not good for me. Okay. And it depends. It depends on a feeling of, uh, excitement.
Brandy: Um, it, it depends on all, all in how you take it, right? Yeah. So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe bingo. It’s kinda like this. Now I want you to picture somebody who has no pressure to do anything. Hey, by the way, do this whenever you’d like, do this whenever you’d like. So excitement can create a sense of pressure, some, but in a positive way.
Brandy: Does that make sense? Yeah. I felt, yeah, because I felt really boring. So, bingo. So that’s the thing is that it depends. It all depends on how you feel, right? So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So I want you to notice what it would feel like to feel excited, to be really willing to change, to be excited, to change, to say, okay, as you change, you change your life.
Jackie: As you change, it’s gonna feel better. You can heal yourself Now, by the way, bingo. Okay? There is, uh, an integrity issue. Bingo. Okay. So I want you to notice the righteous voice. Mm-hmm. Now imagine for a moment if I told everybody they should be angry about apples. Okay? Is that and in good integrity if I start telling people to do that?
Brandy: No. Probably not, right? No. Um, and so without. Unless somebody puts some poison in the apples, et cetera, et cetera. But other than that, no. It’s, it’s not. And so if I tell everybody to get upset and be angry at their mothers, um, is that good energy or not? Good energy? Bad energy. Yeah, bad energy. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
Jackie: I want you to notice the part of you that’s been very angry about the you should and the this and the that, and the, the, the pressure. So you’ve been fighting, you’re, you’re in a fight, in a battle with the words you should and pressure, et cetera, right? Yes. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. What if you’re just not triggered by that stuff now?
Brandy: Bingo. There’s another piece, and it’s this. Notice how if you’re not feeling good, you give yourself a break. Can you see that? Interesting? Yes. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Okay. And so if I told you I’m pressuring myself at a level 7, 9 15, and the only time that I will give myself a break is if I’m not feeling very well, how much do I wanna get rid of that?
Brandy: Don’t. Bingo. So that’s also what’s making it. So if I ask your body, does it wanna get rid of it? It’s like, no. And it’s like this, this woman in the mirror might be pretty mean to me if I do. Okay. So notice, okay, notice how you’re really, really hard on self and press yourself a lot. And then. But then you give yourself a break.
Jackie: If you have health issues, you’re nice to yourself, you’re caring towards yourself, you’re giving yourself a break because there’s a part of you who feels like, if I ask you to close your eyes, and if I ask you, I’m gonna use the S word, the SH word. Okay, here we go. And if I ask you how much you feel like you should be doing more in life, what would you say?
Jackie: 10. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe and who wrote that rule that you should be, okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Okay. Who wrote that rule?
Jackie: I mean, your mom told you that, right? Uh, did she tell you that you should be doing more with your life? Yes or no? Honestly, no. No, no. Not directly. Bingo. She didn’t. Okay. Okay. Did your dad tell you that? No. Bingo. So who do you think is the source of that emotion that you should be doing more with your life?
Brandy: What I’m, I wanna say, religion. Okay, so religion. Religion told you that,
Jackie: oh, well now it feels like a, another pill. I didn’t realize that was written in the Bible or whatever. Religious, I’m not religious anymore, so it’s okay. So what does it say? Like scripture, you should do more. I mean, kinda. And it’s not your interpretation at all, right? Everybody interprets it that they should do more with their life, right?
Brandy: I mean it, okay, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo.
Brandy: So I want you to notice the feeling where you feel like you should be doing more, right? If I ask you zero to 10, how much you can find the feeling of you should be doing more. Uh, 10. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe and I want you to notice what it would feel like to feel like you have goals to move towards.
Jackie: And you’re excited. You’re excited to achieve the next goal. You’re excited to achieve the next goal, vision, whatever it is, you are excited to. You’re excited to get to the next goal. You’re excited. Oh my God, it’s so exciting. You’re excited to get to the next goal. Now what does that, wait, what does that feel like?
Brandy: If you wake up every morning and you’re excited? Oh, that would be different. Oh, great. That would be different, right? So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So if you wake up every morning, and that would be different versus if you wake up every morning pressuring yourself on what you should do, right? Yeah.
Brandy: Mm-hmm. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. I want you to picture you’re waking up every morning and you’re excited about your vision, your life moving forward. You’re excited about your vision and your life moving forward, and that’s really how you feel, right? Yeah. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
Brandy: In that case, could you stop pressuring yourself and instead step into excitement? Would you be willing to do that? Um, yes. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Okay. And I want you to notice the level in your sip bone. What’s your level? Um,
Brandy: still like a two. And notice the part that’s fluctuating and it’s going up and down and up and down. And you can feel that. Feel that right? Yeah. So this is actually what we’re going to do. Okay? So the thing of it is, this is what’s good. You can see all these pieces. And this is the thing is if I push you at all, you know what it’s gonna feel like.
Brandy: Pressure. Pressure, right? And if you’re rushing to get rid of it, you know what it’s gonna feel like. Pressure. Do you know what we’re gonna do is we’re just actually going to have you look at this in your life and reflect on it, and reflect on what it looks like to feel excited about your life moving forward and excited about a vision moving forward.
Brandy: And also to even give yourself space to have time off. Not because you’re injured or a problem, but because you get time off for you and you give that to yourself. Now, notice. How new is that for you to give time off for yourself? Yeah, that’s new. That feels like, okay, great. So don’t, because say, okay, well I’m gonna be nice to myself because I have this paint.
Brandy: No, say it. Look it. I have time to do whatever I want from this time to this time. Give yourself on your calendar time that you get to do something that you enjoy for you every day. Even if it’s doing nothing, put it on your calendar to do nothing. But relax and enjoy, right? Not because you’re sick, not because you’re injured, just for you.
Brandy: Does that make sense? Yes. Great. The other thing is, is I want you to start getting used to what it would feel like to not have pressure, but excitement instead. Does that make sense? Beautiful. Yeah. Yes. Great. And, uh, bingo. And you know what I’m gonna do? Not pressure you to change. So, uh, okay. So I want you to digest this.
Brandy: Take your time with it. Okay? And the other thing is, remember, you’re not gonna believe this. Programming your mind is actually can take you more places than Photoshop.
Brandy: You don’t say. I know, right? Shocking. Shocking. So have fun learning it. Have fun geeking out on it. It’s incredible. Just like you loved learning Photoshop, loving to learn how to work with your mind is just, it’s breakthrough. It’s incredible. It’s fantastic. That make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Now that you’re saying all this, I can realize I’ve had pressure from the beginning.
Brandy: Like I was really excited, but there was still pressure. Yeah. Great. So get excited. Sometimes when I’m doing my programming, I get a positive thing. I get little flashes of like, uh, circulation rushes in certain spots and I’m getting that in my right hip, on my left hip flexor right now. Like I’m getting all the circulation right there.
Brandy: So like we’re in a good, this is good. Fantastic. Fantastic. I love that. And you know what, I’m not gonna do pressure you to do more, but I am gonna tell you, you should just joking. Okay, so I want you to work on that also and just be flowy. You know what? It’s not like anybody’s flipping you off and just be flowy with the words.
Brandy: It’s not the words. It’s how you feel about them that really, really matters. Right? Make sense? Yes, it does. Great. It has been a pleasure connecting with you. Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you so much. I love your self-awareness. I love your sense of humor and just brilliance and beautiful. Thank you. Thank you, thank you.
Brandy: You’re welcome. You’re welcome.
All right, so let’s go ahead and actually bring all of the pieces together. And, you know, first and foremost, I just love her self-awareness, her sense of humor, and the insights that came from this. You know, so often people can feel those very feelings where they’re upset about that which is upsetting them.
So it actually increases the negative emotion — or what can happen is people can vacillate between the problem and then create more of it because of these back-and-forth emotions. In her case, she can give herself time to relax if she’s not feeling good, but then deadlines, projects, or responsibilities come up… and all of a sudden it goes into pressure, pressure, pressure and then… relax, relax… and then pressure, pressure, pressure again.
What I asked her to do was create a different feeling — an excitement — like the feeling of driving somewhere with the windows down, the radio up, enjoying the moment. Or, as I also said, just take your time and geek out on it.
And by the way, if you are not somebody who’s used to the term “geeking out”, it might sound like I’m saying go slow. But what I’m really saying is get excited, get enthusiastic, enjoy the process. That is a huge emotional shift — to take your time and geek out on it. It’s not telling her to go slow; in fact, going slow could actually make her feel like, “Oh my gosh, things aren’t happening — now I need to pressure myself again.”
So a lot of times people can get stuck in that loop — doing positive thinking, meditation, or trying to suppress the emotion — but ultimately, what we really need is new programming in the mind. The mind needs new options, and often multiple new options as you identify the negative patterns. It’s about genuinely reprogramming so you feel differently.
Because when you stop and look at it, so often people react to what’s bothering them by becoming more upset… or they just suppress it. Neither creates real change. What we really need is to establish new neural pathways so the new way of feeling becomes your new normal.
In this case, I didn’t want to pressure her — not only because of me, but because of the pressure she already feels about hurrying up and “doing this right” in front of everyone, the pressure of time, and even pressure from religion to “do more” or “be more.”
So I wanted her to take a beat, really feel into it, and of course, geek out — feel it in a new, exciting way.
Rewiring your mind so it works in a different way is key. And feeling excited about the details of learning is powerful. Because learning how to use and reprogram your mind can do more for your life than Photoshop ever could. That’s not to say anything negative about Photoshop — it’s wonderful — but the truth is, what we are capable of when we master our minds is truly incredible.
If you are new to healing, or even if you’ve been on this path for a long time and want to understand the details more deeply — come check out my free masterclass training (link in the show notes). If you’re ready to go deeper, my deep-dive transformational video course is also in the show notes.
My biggest hope is that every single person in our world learns to master their own mind to heal themselves and change their lives. Imagine what the world would look like if everyone could do that.
So on that note, I ask you: please take just a quick moment to hit the share button on this episode. Share it with someone you love, someone you care about, or even someone you don’t know. Because the more people who are happy, healthy, loved, and empowered — the better the world becomes for all of us.
And with that… have a most wonderful, incredible rest of your day. I look forward to connecting with you on the next episode.
Thank you for listening to Heal Yourself, Change Your Life. All of the time people reach out and say how much these episodes have given them hope or touched their heart, or helped them stay positive in hard times, or even woken them up to a completely new level of awareness of how amazing we all really are.
If today’s episode touched your heart or expanded your mind in any way, please do me a favor and be sure to share it with those you care about or those you know who really need it. As more and more people become empowered, it really will change our world for the better. That is the point and the power of these demonstrations is to create a radical shift in our world consciousness by showing everyone what we are all capable of.
And of course, each volunteer will really need to follow through to reinforce their programming, to maintain their results. But the point is. For you to see that you really can create rapid results in your health and your life if you really understand how to use your mind. You are incredible. And I do wanna be clear though, that most people will not get results this fast on their own.
I make it look very easy because of the discoveries that I made. You’ll wanna remember that there’s so much more going on in our minds at a deeper level than people realize. That said, if you wanna send me any questions or comments, come visit me on my website at brandygillmore.com/podcast. And if you’re currently experiencing physical pain and would like to be a volunteer on the show, you can sign up there as well.
Lastly, please remember, if you do have any health issues, you won’t want to avoid your doctors. Instead, you’ll wanna continue seeing them and make it your goal to blow their minds. With what you are capable of with your mind. Thank you.
IMPORTANT NOTE: We understand that some may believe mind-body healing is impossible. Therefore, if you would like to see images of individuals using their minds to relieve pain, you can check out this medical journal. It includes images from some of Brandy's case studies. If you want to learn how to use your mind to heal yourself, you can check out the training on Brandy's website. Each week, Brandy publishes a volunteer episode where she coaches a volunteer to heal themselves using their own mind. In addition, Brandy shares a quick IQ episode (Insights and Questions) where she answers listener questions or delves deeper into insights on working with the mind for healing. This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for psychiatric or medical care.
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