Lisa has lived with chronic pain and MS for years—and had nearly lost hope for her future.
In this live mind-body healing session, Brandy works with her to uncover what was really keeping her nervous system locked in pain. As Lisa makes a powerful internal shift, her pain drops from an 8 to nearly gone—and something even bigger shifts: her sense of what’s possible for her life.
This episode is a reminder that healing doesn’t come from forcing positivity… it comes from real transformation.
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[00:00:00] Welcome to Heal Yourself, change Your Life. My name is Brandy Gilmore, and after recovering from my own life changing injury, it’s become my mission to share with others the same discoveries I made that changed my health and my entire life. Our minds are truly incredible. The placebo is proof of this.
Each week I will take this simple awareness to a whole new level. I’ll even coach live callers to free themselves of physical pain using only their mind, and then I’ll provide you with a combination of practical and spiritual insights that you can use. To master your mind, your emotions, and your energy to help you heal your health yourself and your life.
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Hello and welcome. It is so wonderful to connect with you. I just love that you are here continuing to expand your mind, your energy, your consciousness, your healing. I just love it and I just love today’s episode. I love the breakthrough from today’s episode and our beautiful volunteer and just. Her awareness and the shift, and there’s just so many things that I love about today’s episode.
Now, the very reason that I started this podcast and started showing people how to use their mind to heal their body or release pain, but the entire reason that has driven me to do this is to show people we really can get. Real results that the mind [00:02:00] body connection is incredible. And if we just understand how to use it and we work with the mind in a different way, that we really can make a radical shift, the body really can.
Heal itself. And one of the things that I love the most about today’s episode is exactly that, is even at the end when I wrapped up with our volunteer, she was able to take her pain from a level eight down to almost gone down to a one. And the reason that was really mind expanding or exciting for her.
Is because she’s been struggling with pain for so long and she’s also been struggling with MS and a variety of different health issues and symptoms. And so for her to make that shift and see that she can impact the mind body connection, that she really can do it. It was just really pivotal and the message that she sent [00:03:00] in even after the episode was just really, really sweet.
And I’ll share that with you coming up. But just a heartfelt, just a sweet message and. That’s really my point is that the more that we see that we can do this, that we can get results. It, it’s eye-opening and I know what it felt like to try everything for years and years and years. And not get the results that I wanted and not see real changes and not be able to heal myself.
And you know, I know what that feeling feels like. And so to be able to create a change and see the shift or feel the shift. Is really powerful. By the way, on that note, if you are somebody who is new to my work, then this episode where our beautiful volunteer releases her pain in a very short period of time might seem impossible.
And [00:04:00] so if you are new, I’d strongly recommend taking a quick moment to check out my work in the medical journal where you can actually see. Images of people releasing their own pain in a short period of time, because if not, this might seem impossible, what we’re about to do. But of course, if you’ve seen that work, then you get it.
You understand that what we are all capable of is truly incredible. And so that’s where we’re going today as we step in with our beautiful volunteer. Lisa, here we go.
Hello. How’s it going? Good. How are you? I’m doing fantastic. Thank you. It’s wonderful to connect with you. You too. Great to thank you. Meet you and sort of in person, sort of right face to face. I like that. Uh, what can I assist you with today? Beautiful. So I have a lot of pain, chronic daily. Um, [00:05:00] I have multiple sclerosis.
I was diagnosed in 2012, but I think I probably had it for a lot longer. Um, it’s manifested in lower back, hip kind of waist area. I also have my left foot cramps up, making it difficult to walk, and I’ve got a lot of stiffness, so my walking has really, really deteriorated. So those are the main issues. All right.
Let’s, let’s dive in, Joey. Yes, please. Let’s do this. All right. Uh, your current level of pain right now, uh, and your back and hips zero to 10. What’s your level? I, um, when I’m sitting like this, it alleviates the pain, but I just got up to, to check it and I’m at about an eight. Okay. Okay. And as far as your foot cramping, you mentioned that is in the left foot, is that correct?
Yes. Okay. And do you experience any of that right now, or not now? It’s about at a two or three. [00:06:00] Okay. Let’s, let’s do this. All right. So, um, bingo. Gimme one second. Okay. So, um. I’m sorry. Remind me what year you had this diagnosed. 2012 is when I got the official diagnosis. Okay. And, um, bingo. Okay. But you feel like you had it before then?
Um, there’s a, a large hurt that I’m seeing in 2009, so I’m like an upset, crying type of hurt and upset. Are you familiar with that by chance? It, it was definitely a time in my life where everything was pretty intensified and two young kids, um, marriage was really starting to get rocky. So yeah, it was a, an intense time.
Okay. And, um, thank you. And can you give me binga? I think, let’s see. Okay, [00:07:00] so can you give me your, um. Uh, you were married, are you still married to the same person? We’re in the process of divorce, but we’ve been separated since 2019, so. Okay. And can you give me his, um, initial please? D Okay. And can you give me your two children?
Uh, their initials. Okay. P and r. Bingo. Okay. And that’s who I thought I was looking for. Okay. And can you say R again? R Bingo. Okay. And, uh. If I ask you zero to 10, how much you feel a sense of, uh, guilt towards r, what would you say? I don’t feel personal guilt. I feel like I’ve done well by him, but I do feel guilty that he hasn’t grown up with his father around.
Okay. And um, and if I ask you zero to 10, how much you feel guilty about that, what would you say? Probably [00:08:00] about a seven. Okay. And, um,
and if I ask you zero to 10, how much you blame yourself for that, what would you say?
Um, that’s low. I, I put the blame on my ex-husband, so I would say only like a one or a two for me. Okay. I would’ve said about a three, but Yep. Okay. And if I ask you to notice for a moment, and if I ask you. Okay, so it’s gonna be a little tricky here for a second, but if I ask you zero to 10 how much you do blame your ex-husband, what would you say?
Oh, an 11. Mm-hmm. Okay. Now if I ask you also inside, if I ask you how much there’s a part of you who feels like it’s secretly part your fault, I ask you zero to 10, how much you can find that feeling. Um, yeah. I would say seven or eight. [00:09:00] I am so impressed with your awareness. Yeah, I, that’s exactly what I would’ve said about an eight.
Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe,
and I’m gonna ask you just for a moment. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe and, and I’m gonna ask you just for a moment, like, this is a thing. How amazing is r? He’s amazing. He’s wonderful. He’s the light of one of the lights of my life. Okay. So if I ask you number one, is there a reason to feel bad at all or blame anybody at all?
I mean, this is the thing ours pretty freaking amazing, right? True. Yeah. There’s, there’s no, there’s no real reason for blaming of anything. No. Yeah. I have a, yeah, I have a question. If you think about, maybe r did even better than would’ve otherwise done if [00:10:00] he had his father around more and more and more often.
Maybe he’s actually as amazing as he is because he needed that area to grow and expand. And I believe that, I firmly believe that. Okay. I can see that. Um, I, I a lot of credence to that. Yes. Fantastic. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Okay. Bingo. Okay, so I’m gonna shift gears for a second and I want you to notice how, if I ask you how much you have felt like you needed your marriage for a sense of security, what would you say?
Um, probably a nine or a 10. Yes. And if I ask you, do you really? Well, I’ve had a lot of financial difficulties. Bingo. That’s exactly where we’re going. Okay. And so, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe and bingo. [00:11:00] And if you knew that everything was going to work out financially, if you knew that, like if you knew that you could navigate things moving forward financially, if I ask you how relieved would you be, I’d be incredibly relieved.
Mm-hmm. And so, um, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Gimme one second.
And so, and, uh, do you work now? No, I haven’t worked in, in 10 years and I really, I’m really feeling the crunch about that. And it’s been because of the disability. I’ve been on disability, but I don’t make enough money and I’m kind of looking at my housing trust running out. And so there’s, I’m at a point where I have to figure things out.
Okay. And if you knew that you could. Start working online and compensate your financial with your disability or whatnot. [00:12:00] But if you knew even, you could even like work off, like I’ve seen people all the time where they start compensating with their financial and then they’re able to continue to do that and then they’re able to heal themselves and then move off of the disability.
Like if you knew that you could do that and even work from home or whatnot online and and start building up that way, how would that feel to you? A huge relief. Huge relief. Okay, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe bingo. And do you know that disability can also try to help train you in some areas? Depending.
I mean, I don’t know what country you’re in. I don’t know where you’re located. I don’t know any, any of the dis, I don’t wanna give you any advice in this advice in this area. But even with myself, like I worked off of disability and I see it all of the time. Um, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe and what would happen, like, imagine your life if you knew that you could [00:13:00] shift this, you could heal yourself, you could reclaim your health and your life, and your financial independence, and you could go on to get married and enjoy a whole nother relationship and connection and future, and happiness and all of that.
What would that look like in your life? That’s, that’s the ultimate goal. And, um, great. I, I would be really, really happy about that. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe
Bingo. Now if I told you I was off of, I was on disability for over seven years and all of that, and then I see I’ve worked with people who are on disability for 20 plus years who were terrified, who are now have their own business working at home online, making multi six figures and more. Like, and, and doing all kinds of things and, and things that they never thought they could possibly do.
Even some that started out try, just going, okay, what is, what is Google Docs? And really starting [00:14:00] there to a place of running their own company and, and all kinds of things. Multiple. Multiple. So if you knew that you could grow and expand and really change and continue, uh, bingo. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe if you knew that and if you believed in yourself.
If I ask you how you would feel right now, how would you feel? I would feel just excited about my life and, and I would feel motivated and have a reason to get up in the morning. Bingo. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe and, uh, isn’t it time to bet on you? Right. I had to bet on me when all odds were against me.
I had to bet on me. I had to bet on me and say, yeah, everybody’s saying I’m not gonna get better. Okay? Most people will have what I had. Don’t get better. I was in extreme pain, all of that. And I had to bet on me and say, okay, I’ve gotta do [00:15:00] this, right? Mm-hmm. And, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe and I’m gonna ask you to take in the feeling that if I ask you zero to 10, how much you know you’re smart, what would you say?
I would say 10. I agree. You’re very smart. I can feel you. Okay. So if you stop and think about it for a moment, you can bet on you, right? You can bet on you. Mm-hmm. And that’s the thing, like when I started looking at everything, I said, oh, wait a second here. Because I would’ve thought, even when I first started with MINDBODY healing, I would’ve thought like, okay, well I had an accident, I have an injury, and people don’t get better.
And I also thought there are 1.5. 1.8 billion people in the world who are in chronic pain, how am I ever going to even heal? If they can’t heal from that, how am I actually going to heal? But the more that I saw evidence of the power of the mind, even, you know, there’s the placebo, but there’s also multiple personality disorder just woke me up going, wait a second.
[00:16:00] A person can have different incurable illnesses in one personality and not another. It made me look at incurable diseases. In a whole different way and say, wait a second. Or even spontaneous remission, where people can literally be on their deathbed and suddenly the body heals itself for no rhyme or reason.
And it’s like, well, wait, wait, wait a second here. So if this body has this capability, this superpower, if you will, how do I activate it? Right? And so, so the more I could see that, hey, it was possible that it’s not just all woo woo fairy. And don’t get me wrong, I like the woo. But the more I could see that it was possible, the more I could say, okay, like, all right, let me, let me figure this out.
Right. So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe and take in the feeling and the awareness that if you’re gonna bet on somebody, why not be this brilliant woman in the mirror? Right. You see evidence, you see the mind body connection. [00:17:00] You know that stress affects the physical body. Of course. Yeah. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
All right, so let’s go ahead and pause it just for a quick moment. You know, first and foremost, I love her awareness. I love her energy, I love her heart. Just really, really, really beautiful. And I want you to think about this feeling of betting on yourself or believing in yourself. You know, I know what it felt like going through my injury of just feeling really.
Frustrated because of the circumstances and the situation, and just really wanting someone or something to fix me, to heal me, and just desperately wanting that so badly, and yet it wasn’t happening. And so I reached out and reached out, and reached out, and reached out, and literally, no matter what I did or who I went and saw there, there [00:18:00] wasn’t an answer.
Until I really understood that I held the answer, I was the one with the answer inside of me to be able to heal myself. And that of course, is what I’m wanting Lisa to see, is that instead of feeling stuck in blame or upset or anger or whatnot, that really getting that awareness and really betting on herself that, okay, she can do this, but.
It’s going to require a real change. And so that’s where we’re going as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Lisa, here we go,
bingo. And I’m gonna ask you to let go of blame. Blame towards him, blame towards you, secret blame towards you, blah, blah, blah. Mm-hmm. And that if you think about r. He turned out pretty [00:19:00] fantastic. I hear he is. Got an amazing mother. Thank you. Okay, so, absolutely. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe, and this is a thing you can see based on circumstances.
It’s, it’s time for change. Like as you said, things are running out. There’s this, there’s that. And you know what, it’s, it’s it’s change is needed, right? Yeah. It has to be. It has to be. Right. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. I’m gonna ask you to breathe and take in the feeling. No more blame, no more upset, no more tears, no more victim towards your ex, no more victim, right?
Yeah. I definitely fall into victim and I, I know that I know better and I can get myself out of it sometimes, but it’s, it’s kind of a rut. Okay. But let me ask you if you have, you. Your kids are sort of amazing, right? [00:20:00] They’re amazing. Okay? So if you have your children, you have you and you have your health back and your life back, what’s the problem?
Like even with the, like, notice you’re even feeling bad about our not having like the other parents around the entire time, but how, how’s r doing? Right? He’s doing, he’s doing really well. Okay. So is there anything to blame? I mean, imagine if I was like, look at nothing happened, nothing bad happened and I’m blaming you.
I’d be like, okay, look at how good my life is and I’m blaming you. Right. Okay. So the thing of it is, is if you just really step up and do this and you make your life good and amazing and wonderful, then when you gonna. Blame your ex for your life being amazing. No. Right. You’re like, this is all your [00:21:00] fault.
Look at how amazing my life is and look at my new partner and look at my new life. And, and thank you for your exit. Right, right. Okay. So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So you decide, are you a victim or victory? I wanna be a victory. Great. I’m just So who has to choose? Who has to choose that? I choose it.
You choose it. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe now to choose that. You’ve gotta be willing to get rid of blame and also secret fault blame. Okay? Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So you have to be willing to get rid of blame and also secret fault, blame inside, blah, blah, blah. Right? Again, if everything turned out really great, how much would you need to blame yourself?
I wouldn’t. What? I would not. Great. I heard you the first time. I just making sure you heard you great. I know your technique, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. [00:22:00] That smile looks good on you. All right. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to stand up and notice your current level of pain.
Okay.
I’m still at about a seven. Okay. I think, I think maybe the way I was sitting. Um, okay. That’s, no, you’re all good. You’re all good. I would’ve said, yeah, I got about a six point, about a 6.7, so I’m right under a seven. Okay. So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe and I want you to notice the part of you who is.
Extremely angry at your ex. Can you see this? Oh yeah. I totally see that. Mm-hmm. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe, and if I ask you anger, zero to 10, what your level would you give it? Uh, 10. Yeah. 10 or 500. Somewhere in there. Yeah. [00:23:00] So, yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. So, uh, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe Now. Patterns breathe more of the same, right?
Right. Bingo. Now, by the way. Uh, bingo. Bingo. If I ask you zero to 10, how much you have also had a pattern of feeling pretty angry throughout life, what would you say? Oh, that’s nine 10? Yeah. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe and I’m gonna invite you to go ahead and keep that pattern. For sure. Don’t change it, it’s gonna make everything way too easy, or, or it could be really good to change, right?
So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
Don’t judge it. Don’t criticize it. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe bingo, and I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Don’t judge it. Don’t criticize it, don’t judge it. Don’t criticize it. Just change it. [00:24:00] How do we change it? So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Mm-hmm.
So I’m gonna ask you to breathe
bingo. And I want you to notice the feeling for a moment. So notice the feeling of feeling like you have a right to be angry. Can you see that? Mm-hmm. Okay. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe
and do you have a right to be angry? Honestly, I do. Okay. And why is that?
Because I have, there are things that have formed me to the point where I’m at that have caused anger and disappointment. Um, and I, I guess I feel like I, I have entitled, meant to feeling that way. Okay. Now, if [00:25:00] I ask you the pattern of anger, how old were you when you, when it started? Probably nine, 10. Okay.
So I would’ve even said age four. Okay. Maybe. Okay, so, so I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And so if patterns breed more of the same and patterns breed more of the same, and patterns breed more of the same, when would you like to change that? I wanna change it now. Brilliant. Okay. And so, but go ahead and tell yourself, you have a right to be angry, right?
So I’m gonna ask you to brief. Okay.
Go ahead and tell yourself you have a right to be angry. Go for it. Go for it. I mean, I wouldn’t wanna do that. I don’t really have a right to be angry. Brilliant. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Imagine if your soul comes here to [00:26:00] earth and is like, I have a right to be angry, or is like, I have a right to create an amazing, wonderful, harmonious life, right?
Mm-hmm. I mean, my choice. Such a better choice, but I mean, right? Someone asks you to breathe.
I want you to notice also the party that feels angry about feeling unsupported, angry, that this isn’t enough for you. This isn’t enough. Angry towards money, angry towards finances, angry towards situation and circumstances and all that. Right? Right. Okay. And I’m just respectfully, how long would you like to stay in that spiral?
I wanna to get out of there as soon as possible. Brilliant. I like, I like the plan. I like the plan. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. I’m gonna be a little pushy and I’m gonna say go ahead and stay in it. Go ahead, go ahead. I, I didn’t want to personally, but if, if you want to go for it. No, I don’t want to.
Smart, [00:27:00] smart, smart, smart. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
All right, so let’s go ahead and pause it just for a quick moment. You know, again, I just love her. I love her awareness, I love her heart. Just a beautiful, beautiful being. And also as far as the feeling of being angry or upset about circumstances, let’s be honest. If we really want to, we could all be upset about something.
Like even during my own injury. I mean, I had an accident and technically two accidents, a car accident and a fault, and it, they weren’t my fault, so to speak if we just looked at the circumstances. So in my own situation. Could I have stayed upset and angry? Absolutely. And in a lot of people’s cases, they can stay upset or angry or you hear me use the example all of the time of, unfortunately, the woman with the abusive father who leaves him and finds an abusive [00:28:00] boyfriend, boss, spouse, you know, that pattern can continue.
And in her case, she could be upset and angry and it’s not fair. I mean. A lot of times we can have circumstances or situations that really ultimately from the outside really don’t look fair. And in my situation, going through my injury, if you just looked on the outside, it didn’t look quote unquote fair.
And yet, when I got rid of the feeling of feeling like things were unfair, but I instead stepped into my feeling of empowerment that I could create the change. And really start changing. Everything got better. And so it’s like we can get upset, we can be frustrated or hurt or angry or blame or any of those things, or we can become empowered and that, of course, is the key.
Now it does take. A real, real [00:29:00] change. And that’s where we’re going as we step back in with our beautiful volunteer, Lisa. Here we go.
I mean, go ahead and stay in it if you want. You could. You could do that. I totally wouldn’t recommend it, but if you wanna stay in the spiral, it’s up to you. No, I’ve been there for too long. Okay, great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
Bingo, and I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And if I ask you to look at what it would look like to really, really, really like, okay, it’s kind of like this. I, if I didn’t change my patterns, if I really didn’t change my emotions, my patterns, my fear, blah, blah, blah, all of that stuff, if I didn’t, how soon do you expect I would’ve healed?
You wouldn’t have. I wouldn’t have, right? Okay. So I want you to go ahead and hold on to financial fear and anger and upset and, uh, [00:30:00] and the anger and all of that stuff, and let me know how that goes for you, if you’d like. What’s that? No, thank you. I knew you were brilliant. I knew you were brilliant. I’m gonna ask you to read.
No, I mean, do you wanna just hold onto it for like another two years, or five years or 10 years? Like, um, how, how long exactly would you like Oh, no. No. It has to, it has to go. That’s why I’m here. Okay, great. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe Bingo and, uh, bingo. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So you’re willing to change?
I’m willing to change. I mean, really. I am, you’re ready to let go of fear and change it in for empowerment, and you’re ready to let go of blame and self blame and him blame, and all the blame and blah, blah, blah. And instead really, really step into your vision of what you’re wanting. I’m ready. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
[00:31:00] Really, really, you’re gonna change? Yeah. I want to. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Great. Uh, so I’m gonna ask you to stand up and notice your level of pain.
I would say it’s a, it’s a five. That’s exactly what I would’ve said. Great, fantastic. And who’s doing that? I’m doing that. Yeah. So don’t do more of this. It’s gonna make it way too easy. Then you’re gonna be moving into your next part of your life and making everything better and better and better. And so I.
Or that means you want to change even more and you’re willing to instead say, I’m done with fear, done with pain. I’m, I’m done with blame. Okay. I’m done with fear. Great. I’m so, I’m so over it. Okay, great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. You mean you’re happily over it. I feel relief right now. [00:32:00] Great. I like relief.
I like relief. I like relief. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. And I’m gonna be a little pushy and I’m gonna say, no, go. Go ahead and hold onto to the the blame. Go, go for it. If you want the self blame, da da da dah. Or just make your life so fricking amazing that you don’t need that. You don’t need the victim.
Like this is the thing, is like, okay, do this. Heal yourself. Like change your life, make this happen. And then who are you gonna blame for your life being great. Nobody. I can, I can. Give myself props for making it great. Right. And celebrate it, which would be amazing for your kids, for your grandchildren, for your life moving forward.
Be really amazing. Right, right. Great. How many future grandchildren are you gonna have? Oh, I hope I have a few. Right. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. [00:33:00] So much to look forward to. Right. So much to look forward to. So it’s time to step up, right? It’s time to step up, get out of the fear, and instead step up and start embracing the change.
Right, right. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So getting rid of the fear and stepping into your strength and your empowerment. Right, right, right. And your brilliance. We like that too. Great. Mm-hmm. So I’m gonna ask you to.
So you mean stepping more into your strength and your empowerment, less of the blame and the blah, blah, blah, and the fear and the, all of that stuff. Right. Yeah. I’m, I’m ready for it. Brilliant. I think you are right. It’s wise. Very, very wise. Very wise. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Can you stand up for a moment and just notice your level?
[00:34:00] I’m down to about a four. I would’ve said about a three, four. I got about three point. Got a 3.5. 3.5 right in there. Great. How amazing are you? Huh? So zero, zero to 10 and I expect nothing less than an 11. How amazing are you? Um, 10 zero to nothing less than an 11. There was a tickets. Alright. 11. That’s my lucky number.
Anyway, there we, I like it. I like it. Great, great, great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So I’m gonna ask you to close your eyes, and I know I’m interrupting, and I feel like I’m supposed to, so I know that there’s something that you’re waiting to say, and I feel like I’m not supposed to let your mind go there yet, okay?
Mm-hmm. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Thank you. So if I ask you, is this really, really doable? If you change, I mean, you’re the one that’s seeing your pain going down right now, right? Right. So is this doable? It is doable. It is doable. So I’m not asking you to just pull a rabbit outta your hat, not so doable.
Um, no. It looks, but notice pain is [00:35:00] changing right now, right? Yes. You are doing okay. You’re doing it. You are doing it. You’re the power here. I’m showing you how to use it. So if you can do that, what else can you do with your mind that you don’t realize you can do now? Of course. Keying in creating the change, right?
It’s gonna take a real, real change. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe and I’m gonna say, nah, go ahead and hold onto fear and anger. Stay in the spiral if you want. I mean, I wouldn’t recommend it. To me, that was the worst place to be. I had to get outta the spiral, into empowerment, into embracing change. It took a real change.
Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Absolutely. And great. Your time to change. Time to change. I have time to change. Great. And so if I ask you how much of that time you wanna spend being angry at X, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, I don’t wanna spend any more time on that. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, [00:36:00] brilliant, brilliant.
And so I’m gonna ask you to breathe, I mean like five more years, 10 more years. How much more time would you like to spend in that negativity? No, I don’t want any of it. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Great. Okay, great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Great. And I’m gonna ask you to stand up again and step over.
Well, I’m definitely down to like a three. Okay. Maybe. Maybe a little less. That’s what I would’ve said. Two and a half, three. Binga said I got about a 2.2 0.6. 2.6. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Who’s doing that? I am. But you’re helping me. Absolutely. Absolutely. Great teamwork. I like it. I like the teamwork. It’s brilliant.
Yeah. Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. Yeah. Being brilliant and empowered and amazing. I don’t think [00:37:00] you’re ever gonna find another amazing relationship.
Not true. I know it’s not true. You’re gorgeous. You’re smart. You have a great smile. You’re just, you’re kind. I feel your heart. You’re, I’m, so, I’m gonna ask you to breathe Absolutely. And bingo. But it’s time to get outta the spiral, right? Yeah, it is great. Yeah. It’s time to. I mean, you could, don’t get me wrong, you could spend the rest of your life blaming your ex and feel anger.
And that’s what a lot of people will end up doing. They’ll be in a situation, they then they, they’re in the spiral and they blame, blame, blame, blame, self blame this, blame that. Or you could just make it great. Right. Yeah. I’ve, I’ve spent enough time in it. Great, great, great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
Great. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe, so you could just make it great, right. Just so you know, I was trying to take your neural pathways back towards Great. That’s why I interrupted. ’cause you were, I wanna take a different street. Yeah. Uh, so you to breathe. Okay. [00:38:00] So you could make it great. Right. I can make it great.
Isn’t it time to do so? Right. It’s time. Now’s kind of the time to do so. Right now is the time. Divine time. What do you know? Right. Divine timing couldn’t have come at a better time than now. Right. Right. Now. Now is the time. Now is the time. Now is the time. So this is the thing. During my injury, how much do you think I needed to step up into my strength?
It was mandatory. Yeah, it was mandatory, right? Nobody was gonna make me, but it was mandatory. Now this is the thing is I’m gonna ask you to breathe Bingo. So you’re done with victim. They, it’s, it doesn’t look hot on you. No. It doesn’t, it’s totally, I’m gonna, I’m gonna have to tell you, you know how like you see somebody where who’s wearing a certain color and maybe it’s just like, not their color.
Like yellow isn’t, it just isn’t really my color, right? Mm-hmm. Same. It goes a little weird with my gr I green eyes, and then it goes, they kind of turn a little yellow and it could look a little weird, [00:39:00] right? Like, victim just isn’t your color. It’s just like, it’s one of those things that’s just, it just doesn’t seem like your vibe.
You know what I mean? It’s not doing anything for me. Yeah. I You nailed it. Nailed it. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So, but that empowerment thing is totally you, you, you, you, you, you know that right? I like that color. I, me too. Looks really flattering. Really flattering. And the future through that lens looks really flattering too.
So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So on that note, uh, how high is the blame? You done with that? Yeah. That’s, you done. You’re done. Zero. And the guilt, you’re done. Mm-hmm. You’re done. Great. Done. So, I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
All right, so let’s go ahead and pause it just for a quick moment. You know, I just adore her. Just beautiful energy, beautiful job, and she’s doing it, you know, she’s really working on [00:40:00] releasing her pain. Now, by the way, you hear me say this all of the time. I make this look really, really easy. So often there are things that I’m doing that.
People don’t realize that I’m doing just with the mind, just the order in which that I work with. The mind. There are so many, just little meticulous nuances, little nuances and details of working with the mind that are really key for making the change. And as you see right now, as I’m working with her, it’s in a very playful way, in a light way, but also.
I’m asking her to make the change, and so that can be really helpful where you’re just being really playful and kind to yourself while also, of course, wanting to embrace that real, real change. And so just food for thought as you’re working with your own mind. How kind can you be? How fun or funny or playful or silly or [00:41:00] ridiculous in a sweet way, in a playful way, but also embracing the change.
So just food for thought as we dive back in with beautiful Lisa. Here we go.
Great. And um, I’m gonna inconvenience you again and I’m gonna ask you to stand up if you could please.
I feel like I’m at a one, right? So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
So let me ask you a question. Is this healing thing doable? It’s doable, yeah. You’ve seen the results under medical equipment, so you can see. It actually creates change. Now this is the thing is if we hang up and then you go and you get upset with him again, likely it will come right back. So it does take a real, real, real change.
Does that make sense? Right. And that’s my question. Okay? [00:42:00] Yep. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. So it does take a real, real, real, real change. So I’m gonna ask you to breathe.
So I’m gonna ask you to breathe. Bingo. So the thing of it is, is if you feel overwhelmed in this, it’s not going to go well because overwhelm is also an emotion. So what I would do if I were you is I would go through my video course and when you go through, I would spend a lot of time on the first week into empowerment, into feeling that and feeling into your strength and also, uh, like starting to release the victim and the anger feeling and all of that.
So that’s what I would do. Okay. Gimme one second please.
And the other thing is, is this is, if I ask you honestly how hopeless you have felt, what would you say? Um, I’ve, I’ve been at 10 plus before. Not that long ago. It [00:43:00] comes and go. Yes. Now, uh, it comes and goes. Now notice what else you said is, you said it would give you a reason to wake up in the morning if you knew you could have a future like that, right?
Yes. And if I ask you right now how much recently you’ve been feeling like you really have a reason to get outta bed in the morning very little. Exactly. So the thing of it is, is establishing the neural pathways of this isn’t insignificant. Now, if you’re like most people, this is what you’d wanna do is you’d be like, what are neural pathways?
Not that you don’t know. I’m sure that you do know you’re brilliant, you’re smart. You would be like, it should, A lot of people, this is what they do. They don’t actually establish strong neural pathways. They’re in such a hurry to get better. They forget that they need to actually establish the neural pathways and get them in.
So what I would do is I would go through my video course and I would literally follow the information because this is the thing is if you ask me how excited I felt about my future before I healed, zero to 10, a [00:44:00] 2000. Okay. Because I was like, I know I can do this. I can see this, I can see this. Now this is the thing.
In this moment right now, how much do you feel like this is all doable, that you really can heal yourself? If I ask you how much do you see that this is doable? And not only that, but not spending your days in fear or in pain, um, and every time you wake up or you walk around that you’re in pain. If you were able to do that, if I ask you how much better that would make you feel about your life and your future, if you knew you could do this, what would you say?
It would just be, I don’t know, just pivotal. Yeah. Sorry, I’m tripping on words, but, um, it would be a major breakthrough. I mean, it would be. Yeah. So this is the thing I want you to picture just for a moment, that your children we’re in first grade. Or kindergarten, but they never fully learned the alphabet.
They started to learn the alphabet. They got it in at about a level two or three, [00:45:00] and then you started putting ’em in the spelling bee, and then you started moving ’em to the next level of the spelling bee and moving them along and all of that. How would they do. They wouldn’t do very well. Exactly. So most people, what they want to do is they want to race through, and especially I show results in a very short period of time.
So people go, oh, I should be able to just create results. And yes, we can, but we have to lock them in. So if I were you, instead of your mind racing in, like I, I would, I would take this information and I would go through week one and I would literally implement it to your fullest. So you’re feeling that, you’re feeling right now?
Is the feeling that you feel this, this feeling of feeling like I can do it, this feeling of feeling like I’m empowered, this feeling of feeling like I would lock those feelings in. Mm-hmm. So they are your norm. So you wake up feeling like that. You wake up feeling like that it is your new automatic norm.
Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. I love that. Fantastic. [00:46:00] Fantastic. So this is the thing. You have a very fast mind and I hear you and I see you, and I know your mind wants to ask about 50 questions and I feel like from that it will overwhelm you. And I don’t wanna leave you there. I want to leave you in a place where you have a level pain of one and almost gone.
And because I want you to lock this in because if we do too much, it’s kinda like this. If your son was in first grade and then we taught him English, math, geometry, science, social studies. Whatever else, all, and how to play the piano all in an hour. Okay? How’s he gonna do? It’s not gonna, it’s not gonna work out, right?
So we don’t want to undo what we’ve done, right? And if we can start embracing this change, that would be very powerful. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. Fantastic. Fantastic. So on that note, I wanna leave things right here, okay? Mm-hmm. Beautiful. Beautiful. You’re thank, beautiful and incredible and um, absolutely.
And it has been such a pleasure connecting with you and I am cheering you on and [00:47:00] I know your mind is wanting to ping everywhere, and I would just leave it right here. Okay. Well, it’s been my pleasure, Brandy. I, I appreciate your time and putting aside time to talk to me through this and it’s, I’ve been looking forward to it for weeks, so I’m, I’m glad that we finally connected.
It’s. It’s powerful and I, I really appreciate it. You’re so welcome. Beautiful. You’re so, so welcome. It’s been a pleasure.
All right, so let’s go ahead and bring everything together. And first and foremost, I just love her. I love her energy. I love her smile. I love her shift and her breakthrough. I love that she was able to take her pain from a level eight down to a level one. I love the multiple times when she said. Then she’d have something to look forward to or wake up to and look, have a reason to wake up in the morning [00:48:00] type of feeling, you know?
And I just absolutely love that so much because I also know what that felt like during my injury to wake up and feel like, uh, it’s just another day. Or a lot of times I wasn’t sleeping at all. And it just to just be stuck. In that, you know, and so I love this shift. I love her self awareness, just brilliant.
I also love the email that she sent in afterwards where she’s just ecstatic and excited and she said, I honestly haven’t felt anything close to excitement for my future. In a very long time, and so I love that just so much of it. Now, of course, as we just discussed, it will take follow through for her to rewire her mind at a deeper level and to embrace a real change.
And so this is like the first piece of the puzzle. If you will, of creating a solid change. And that’s the reason that I also recommended that she gets into [00:49:00] my video course because even though we started making this shift, it is going to need to get locked into the subconscious mind and nervous system and really rewire it at a deeper, deeper level.
And that will be key. So what I wanted to show her right now is. When I push her mind into place, so to speak, that it can start align with healing. And that’s the way to think about it, is that, you know, I kind of pushed her mind into an alignment to start healing. But there can be triggers, there can be, um, you know, things that come up in life.
And so there is a rewiring, there is a deeper programming that is needed, but. She can see that the more she does get her mind aligned, the more she can heal herself. And that is pivotal. And so I just, I love that so much. Now, by the way, something that I mentioned as I was working with her is [00:50:00] I said, you know, she’s really, really smart.
She can do it. And she is, she’s brilliant. Now, part of the reason that I mentioned to her that she’s smart is because I can feel that from her. I really want to remind her of who she is and that she can do this and she is capable and that she is smart just because that is who she is, if you will. But I also want to expand on this and say.
Even if somebody thinks that they’re quote unquote not smart, they can still do mind body healing and still implement this. I mean, it’s like learning anything else. You know, somebody can learn a piano or learn how to sing or learn how to play football or soccer or tennis or golf or whatever it is, or be very book smart.
So my point is, is that. Anybody can learn it. Just like anybody can learn how to drive a car or even use a computer. And so we all have an ability to [00:51:00] learn. And that’s also another insight that I want to share with you because if you are here listening to this and you have a belief that says you are not that smart, uh, that’s of course not true.
You know, everybody is smart in their own way and some people’s minds just have blocks to learning different things, which. If that was the case, then a person would just want to start releasing the mental blocks to that. And a simple way to think about it is like this is that a third grader could sit down and love learning English, but feel very blocked when it comes to math.
And of course we can unblock the mind. To learn, to really get good at anything. Our minds really are incredible more than most people realize. And so just food for thought, because I don’t want anybody who’s listening to this think, oh, well, if I’m not that smart, I can’t do it. But I have seen people heal themselves from things all of the time.
And by [00:52:00] the way, on that note, additionally, I have seen people who are very, very smart. Also have a harder time with self-healing because what happens is this is sometimes because they are smart and they’re very quick to get concepts and information that they just want to learn more information. Learn, learn, learn, learn, learn more information.
Without transformation, and that is very common and that is also the reason at the end of her session, why I left it exactly where I did is because her mind is very smart and she is very fast, and that could have a high probability of leading somebody. To just want to consume information instead of consuming transformation.
And it is very, very common. And so that’s also the reason that I really wanted to emphasize that at the end. So just food for thought in your own life [00:53:00] because all of the time you hear me say that I make results look really easy and I do. And it does take a real change, a real transformation at a deeper level.
But what we are capable of is absolutely. Incredible. And by the way, on that note, if you are somebody who is new to my work and it looks impossible for somebody to release their own pain in such a short period of time, I’d strongly recommend going to the show notes. You can see where I have work published in a medical journal where you see people.
Releasing their pain in a very short period of time, and you can see the results under medical equipment. So you can see there’s actual changes going on in the physical body. It’s not just mind over matter, it’s not just positive thinking, but there’s a real shift. That’s occurring in the body. And so it’s just powerful to really see that with your own eyes if you have not seen that [00:54:00] yet.
So those are the insights that I want to share with you today. And as always, I want to ask you to please do take just a quick moment to hit the share button on this episode. You know, share it with somebody you love, somebody you care about, or somebody you don’t even know. Because the more that every single person in our world feels healthy and happy, and loved and loving.
The better this world is for all of us and so please do hit the share button and please do have an incredible rest of your day and I look forward to connecting with you on the next episode. We’ll see you there.
Thank you for listening to Heal Yourself, change Your Life. All of the time people reach out and say how much these episodes have given them hope or touched their heart, or help them stay positive in hard [00:55:00] times, or even woken them up to a completely new level of awareness of how amazing we all really are.
If today’s episode touched your heart or expanded your mind in any way, please do me a favor and be sure to share it with those you care about or those you know who really need it. As more and more people become empowered, it really will change our world for the better. That is the point and the power of these demonstrations is to create a radical shift in our world consciousness by showing everyone what we are all capable of.
And of course, each volunteer will really need to follow through to reinforce their programming, to maintain their results. But the point is. For you to see that you really can create rapid results in your health and your life if you really understand how to use your mind. You are incredible. And I do wanna be clear though, that most people will [00:56:00] not get results this fast on their own.
I make it look very easy because of the discoveries that I made. You’ll wanna remember that there’s so much more going on in our minds at a deeper level than people realize. That said, if you wanna send me any questions or comments, come visit me on my website Brandygillmore.com/podcast. And if you’re currently experiencing physical pain and would like to be a volunteer on the show, you can sign up there as well.
Lastly. Please remember, if you do have any health issues, you won’t want to avoid your doctors. Instead, you’ll wanna continue seeing them and make it your goal to blow their minds with what you are capable of with your mind. Thank you.
IMPORTANT NOTE: We understand that some may believe mind-body healing is impossible. Therefore, if you would like to see images of individuals using their minds to relieve pain, you can check out this medical journal. It includes images from some of Brandy's case studies. If you want to learn how to use your mind to heal yourself, you can check out the training on Brandy's website. Each week, Brandy publishes a volunteer episode where she coaches a volunteer to heal themselves using their own mind. In addition, Brandy shares a quick IQ episode (Insights and Questions) where she answers listener questions or delves deeper into insights on working with the mind for healing. This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for psychiatric or medical care.
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